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Post by Ex on Sept 11, 2019 9:44:05 GMT -5
Thoughts on the latest FF7 remake trailer?:
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Post by Sarge on Sept 11, 2019 10:56:52 GMT -5
I've been kind of impressed so far. I like that they're changing the combat system up; it looks a lot like Crisis Core, which was a ton of fun. While I might not snag it at launch, I have no doubt I'll get it at some point, and probably enjoy it a lot.
(I'm not a FFVII hater, although I do get annoyed at how many folks think it's the greatest RPG of all time. I'm sure folks think the same with me and Chrono Trigger, though...)
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Post by Ex on Sept 11, 2019 11:28:01 GMT -5
I too really enjoyed Crisis Core, far more than I expected to.
For me FF7 was a 7/10. I'll admit this remake looks better than I was expecting; "hesitantly intrigued".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 14:08:00 GMT -5
I mean, Dirge of Cerberus is my favorite FF game, so I'm not even qualified to have an opinion on the matter. If you're not familiar with it, it's a third person shooter with RPG elements where you play as Vincent Valentine. It's cool.
Seriously though, it looks exactly like Advent Children. It'll definitely do better than XIII and XV.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 11, 2019 14:50:34 GMT -5
Haha, I remember that getting kinda reamed a bit, but what I played of it seemed decent enough.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 11, 2019 17:51:12 GMT -5
To be honest the remake is already looking better than Advent Children. That CGI ages. People think Don might be Mark Hamill. FF7's an easy 9/10 for me and I think I've beaten it three times over the years, I can't say that for like 99% of the other post-16bit era JRPG's I've played. I've got some nitpicks about it, but the world and Materia system rules and I like some of the characters. Tifa is legit one of the best FF girls. Barret rocks too. As for the remake, the initial reveal earlier this year with Aeris, Cloud, and Barret had me intrigued. Then for months like others, I was left in limbo wondering how Tifa's design and all that would turn out. This kind of sums up how I felt too. I was floored and at peace, along with all the gameplay and everything else I was seeing. Then from numerous sources I trust like Easy Allies, etc, of people who got to play the E3 demo and all, it sounded seriously impressive. I can't really get into it but let's just say it sounds like the combat system has depth, unlike FFXV. And I love how the character designs strike this nice middle ground between the more modern realistic look but it's still got a nice slice of anime charm. FFXV is one of the biggest disappointments of the decade to me and I'd rather play FF1-FF10, but it might be better to say Square Enix in general is the biggest disappointment of the decade. I think I'll probably be salty about the post Square Soft world forever because I've never really "loved" Square Enix like I did Square Soft. Time and time again they have let me down tremendously. But I guess the Final Fantasy nostalgia has me by the balls because I can't contain my hype thrusters sometimes. You can barely trust their higher level veterans, I don't know how Tetsuya Nomura whom was a character designer is suddenly like the one guy steering the ship usually, and they can just be beyond pompous. I always wish I could re-find this video they made about the composition for FF13's music, the video and person talking literally made it sound like Square Enix had created God itself. It was wild. I think they've cooled off on their high horse a little thesedays though, somewhat. Too bad Uematsu is sick, so I don't know if he's involved at all. I know him and Square have had a complicated relationship post FFX. But I know he did some tracks for FF13, FF14, etc. The remixes sound pretty good at least.
So inevitably I'm kind of all in at this point. Seriously though there are a lot of key things I've heard about the combat and such that make me feel so relieved.
Now this is where it gets tricky, I don't like things to go on forever. I think at the most they should strive to make this a trilogy of three big releases. On one hand, Midgar is one of the coolest portions of the entire game to me but realistically it's only like ~5 hours worth on the original game. This remake should supposedly be a 30 some hour fully fleshed out Midgar and that sounds absolutely amazing to me, I want that. They can chop down more of the misc stuff outside of the world, but if this first release really only covers Midgar, we've still got like 80% of the game and story to go. So that worries me somewhat. Not to mention, how will stats, mechanics, etc, even carry over between releases? Square's got themselves in some trouble here... but a big beefy redux on Midgar, man oh man that sounds great and I'm excited. I don't know if I'd be this excited for the next few releases.
I liked when Square made more than one new Final Fantasy a generation. But that's not the case anymore. You know what though, we're 15 entries in. I think they should just let the main line rest or maybe even stop it there forever. I think I would be okay with FF7R taking up the next gen, knowing their pace. But it can't be longer than that. Hopefully someday they give us a new game that's high fantasy in the vein of FF4 though, I think that's what they should do for FF16 or something if they have to continue on. But I don't want them splitting resources and teams. Get all hands on deck for FF7R and let's get this done.
I don't know if they can pull off remake miracles like Capcom can, but I WANT this to be amazing. And I am freaking hyped at this point. But Square Enix has a lot to prove and a mountain to climb for redemption in my eyes.
I mean, Dirge of Cerberus is my favorite FF game, so I'm not even qualified to have an opinion on the matter. If you're not familiar with it, it's a third person shooter with RPG elements where you play as Vincent Valentine. It's cool. Seriously though, it looks exactly like Advent Children. It'll definitely do better than XIII and XV. And yeah that's hilarious dude. I look forward to your Final Fantasy / JRPG year.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 12, 2019 17:47:04 GMT -5
Looks like it's shaping up.
Also heard, I believe Alexander Brandon will be helping out with the music/sound.
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Post by Ex on Sept 12, 2019 21:15:24 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of SS1 and SS2, but that video did not whet my appetite. I'm not seeing any new ideas there at all. Instead I'm seeing SS1 combined with SS2 coated with modest modern graphics. I mean really, SHODAN again? I hope the full game harbors more innovation then what I saw in that trailer. Although for folks new to the franchise, I guess it'll all be fresh to them so perhaps that's the goal.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 12, 2019 21:19:56 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of SS1 and SS2, but that video did not whet my appetite. I'm not seeing any new ideas there at all. Instead I'm seeing SS1 combined with SS2 coated with modest modern graphics. I mean really, SHODAN again? I hope the full game harbors more innovation then what I saw in that trailer. Although for folks new to the franchise, I guess it'll all be fresh to them so perhaps that's the goal. My reaction is that, this is a typical Commando styled action trailer for a genre that doesn't really play like such. So it's really hard to judge so far. Some people were taking issue with how SHODAN looks more "human". But then Warren Spector posted on social media "maybe there's a reason for that". Hopefully it doesn't slip on some cliche' tropes.
Remember Underworld Ascendant from last year though? Yeah... I bet not. Apparently it did horrible. This was also developed by OtherSide, so I think they've got a bit to prove here. I want to believe Warren Spector can be part of a great game again, but it's been awhile.
I'm just happy that SS3 exists and it at least looks like it's coming together, unlike the SS1 remake.
If SS3 bombs though at least I have another reason to point people to Arkane's 2017 Prey. It pains me how underrated that game was.
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Post by Ex on Sept 12, 2019 21:28:13 GMT -5
Remember Underworld Ascendant from last year though? Yeah... I bet not. Oh I remember it alright, and I remember not bothering to play it. Not after I watched videos of it, and read indepth reviews for the game. I expected more from OtherSide. Honestly man I've already accepted that no other first person dungeon crawler is going to top the King's Field series for me. I'm at peace with it. Unless of course FromSoftware wisely decided to make a new KF.
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