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Post by Ex on Sept 18, 2019 22:27:14 GMT -5
This looks like a game Ex might be interested in. "Hesitantly interested."
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Post by Sarge on Sept 18, 2019 23:04:24 GMT -5
Heh. I feel like that with a lot of games that sound like they might be great... and don't deliver.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 19, 2019 18:24:09 GMT -5
Xeogred : I hope you enjoy God of War as much as I did! If you liked the prior Tomb Raider games, you'll enjoy this one as well. I thought the first two God of War games were okay, didn't love them like everyone else (I was the guy playing Onimusha, Ninja Gaiden Xbox, and Devil May Cry instead)... but yeah this new GoW being a soft reboot and changing up the gameplay is totally fine with me. Everything I heard about it over the last year sounds great.
A lot of people have been down on these new Tomb Raider games, but I like them more than Uncharted (only played 1-2 so far). The gameplay in Uncharted is just so bare bones, I like that these TR games have more going on. I know that Eidos Montreal developed this last one and not Crystal Dynamics, maybe they helped out some though. So it'll be interesting to see how they differ. I think it'll be tough to beat out Rise, I really loved that snowy setting and it improved upon everything I liked in the first, but yeah. If Shadow's quality in the ballpark of the last two, I'll be cool with it.
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I'm not reading too deeply into the Link's Awakening reviews and all popping up now, but this remake is sounding very awesome. I'm ready!
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 21, 2019 22:46:41 GMT -5
Just watched the ~90 minute Death Stranding coverage with Kojima at TGS (with Giant Bomb).
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Post by Ex on Sept 21, 2019 23:09:38 GMT -5
So are you "Hesitantly interested."
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 22, 2019 7:47:25 GMT -5
That's a good way to put it. It was cool to see Kojima pretty casual and happy showcasing the whole ordeal. With this new extensive footage, I have a good grasp of how the game will be gameplay wise. I never bothered with Journey but people are drawing comparisons to that, but with systems/mechanics on top of that style of game. What cracks me up is how even Kojima whether he realizes it or not is pulling online elements from what Demon's/Dark Souls did with the player messages thing and coexisting with other players online in their own worlds. But they're taking it even further here... you get "Likes" for laying down ladders and helping out other Sam's traverse the world, as they help you as well. Souls can have a lot of troll moments but that's where the "Likes" helps come into play, so you can distinguish what will actually help or not. Here's the first extensive video:
It still looks insane. Sam has weight/balance stats depending on what items you want him to have equipped before going out. You literally have to push the shoulder buttons at times to help him stabilize his balance when climbing up mountains and stuff. You can pee on mushrooms along with other players for some reason. At one point his feet got bloody and started hurting, so he swapped out old boots with a new backup pair he brought. The second video is a dating sim with Sam. This is some of the most cringe stuff I've seen in awhile and nothing I want to bother with in the game. Though I like being able to customize gear colors and see your stuff get upgraded in a cool little base, like the boots supposedly. Apparently Sam's shit and piss is converted into some kind of weapon that's used against the enemies in the game. Yep... What has me worried about the delivery of the story, is that the Mads Mikkelsen parts from what he showed off are "flashbacks" shown kind of like in a loading spot, or maybe the beginning of a chapter. This reminds me of how much story started being fed through "tapes" and such in Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, and Phantom Pain. I'm not a big fan of having to play through huge chunks of game just to get a slow drip feed of story. Kojima at one point in the first video says you might not have fun until you're halfway into the game or something. So... I mostly get it. It's a weird walking sim adventure with online player integration (I'm worried if I'll need to renew for PS Plus). Hey maybe it'll scratch a Breath of the Wild like itch for me and be fun to casually explore this world. I have a good grasp of what this game will be like now and it'll certainly be different than the norm.
BUT... will it be fun? I'm still hoping that the story pulls me in and that's kind of what I'm mostly interested in. I just hope that Kojima realizes this direction in gaming has a very short life span. It'll probably be best played at launch when everyone jumps in fresh and explores this strange world together. Years down the road, all this online stuff will probably be gone and I bet it'll be a more empty experience. Souls can get by that easily but I'm not so sure about a walking simulator like Death Stranding here.
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Post by Ex on Sept 22, 2019 10:24:32 GMT -5
I jumped around in both videos, trying to get a feel of it. I'm sensing a fair amount of Phantom Pain influence bleeding through. Open world is played out at this point, but with Kojima who knows, he might've found ways to make it more interesting than usual. A lot of people still love online multiplayer so I assume that's a good idea - as long as the game can still be played through single player. I didn't mind Demon's Souls online implementation, because you could play the entire thing offline single player if you wanted. I'm pretty sure people will find ways to troll using the "Like" system. I will say the physics and momentum modeling on the main character's movement is really complex and intricate.
This might be the first game that Kojima's done where no one could tell him "no" about any of his batshit crazy ideas. (Like peeing on mushrooms.) It'll be interesting to see just how wacky the entire game is.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 22, 2019 12:17:28 GMT -5
I jumped around in both videos, trying to get a feel of it. I'm sensing a fair amount of Phantom Pain influence bleeding through. Open world is played out at this point, but with Kojima who knows, he might've found ways to make it more interesting than usual. A lot of people still love online multiplayer so I assume that's a good idea - as long as the game can still be played through single player. I didn't mind Demon's Souls online implementation, because you could play the entire thing offline single player if you wanted. I'm pretty sure people will find ways to troll using the "Like" system. I will say the physics and momentum modeling on the main character's movement is really complex and intricate. This might be the first game that Kojima's done where no one could tell him "no" about any of his batshit crazy ideas. (Like peeing on mushrooms.) It'll be interesting to see just how wacky the entire game is. He mentioned having to try really hard to pitch the idea to his staff initially. Probably had to keep reassuring and convincing them along the way for sure too...
Regardless of how this turns out, as the Giant Bomb crew were kind of joking: "Gaming needs Kojima!" the concept of this entire game looks like the creative freedom you'd normally only find in the indie space right now. But here we are with Kojima and his team making one of the weirdest AAA projects in awhile. So it's cool in that regard to me.
The issue with Phantom Pain's world/level design though, is that it wasn't a very interesting open world to look at. The gameplay was a blast in that game, but there was literally only like one actual big building you could interact with (where you rescue this old man), then maybe a cool military base or two. 90% of the game was just the barren lands and some huts. Much like modern Far Cry's and a bunch of other open world games. Outside of your base in Death Stranding, it looks like 90% of this game is going to be grassy mountains. lol, hopefully there's more variety along the way than what we got in TPP.
So yeah, to elaborate on something I was saying above too, I just hope I don't have to play 50 hours to get a good 2-5 hour story like TPP's case. But who knows, I'm ready to experience this game and see how the heck it is in person haha.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 22, 2019 12:27:36 GMT -5
I am afraid that this will pretty terrible because no one has reined him in. A lot of this just sounds... weird. Even for Kojima.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 23, 2019 11:58:49 GMT -5
Perhaps a game worth keeping an eye on.
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