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Post by bonesnapdeez on May 12, 2023 10:02:40 GMT -5
I like how it straddles the line between reboot and spiritual successor. And yeah, the game "opens up" later on and feels a lot different compared to LttP. That wall mechanic is really fantastic too.
Wish some of this stuff would get ported to Switch (or the Switch successor at this point?). Lotta folks seemed to miss out on that 3DS era, which had some solid RPGs and adventure games.
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Post by Xeogred on May 12, 2023 11:57:51 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't really feel like it was too much like LTTP at all. Hate to say it though, but I didn't like it overall. Finished it though but if I were to put a number on it I don't know, 5/10? At least I beat it, unlike Phantom Hourglass, the ONLY Zelda I've played and didn't care to finish. So I didn't even bother with Spirit Tracks since it looked like more of the same. Some here (toei?) swear by Minish Cap being good. I beat that one but at the time, maybe didn't gel well with the cartoony look. That was probably my teen years when I was angsty and wanted everything to be dark. Yes I was probably that kid clamoring for Twilight Princess, haha. So I'll give Minish Cap another look someday, but I sadly haven't "loved" 2D overhead Zelda's since the GBC games. It feels like such a weird void Nintendo hasn't fulfilled again for me. The Link's Awakening remake was fine, but the original still has it beat in just about everyday. Modern overhead 2D Zelda's I feel like I beat and forget about overnight.
So guys, I'm not saying Zelda is PERFECT, hah. I don't like Wind Waker much either. Didn't finish it on the GC, then beat the WiiU remaster and I probably won't touch it again. But I love all the other 3D Zelda's and it's always like a monster 5 year gap in between them, so they always get me hyped and buying hardware.
There's less Metroid's, but it feels like the series has stayed more consistent to me across both 2D/3D entries. Compared to some lower tier Zelda in my book, I don't think I'd rank any Metroid that low. Even Other M... is pretty solid gameplay wise and all.
Realistically, Super Metroid is in the SSS tier too. Yes I'm a selfish guy with two #1's.
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Post by Ex on May 12, 2023 14:05:40 GMT -5
Phantom Hourglass / Spirit Tracks I beat these, because the touch interface and puzzle mechanics were novel. Gave PH a 7.5/10 and ST a 7/10. They're not bad games, but I wouldn't say they're amazing either.
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Post by Sarge on May 12, 2023 14:10:57 GMT -5
Yeah, those scores are fair. I liked Spirit Tracks more, but I'd say PH is probably a 7.5 or 8, and ST an 8 or 8.5 for me.
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Post by Moulinoski on May 12, 2023 14:18:57 GMT -5
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised to see such lukewarm feelings towards Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. I love them both although they’re terrible to emulate these days and the novelty of the touch screen has definitely been well worn out by this point. I wish these two would get reimagined remakes. I am surprised to see such lukewarm reaction to ALBW, however! I wonder what you didn’t like about it, Xeogred. I’m also surprised to see that you didn’t like The Minish Cap as it is very much a classic Zelda game in the vein of Link’s Awakening and the Oracle games. Ex I wouldn’t want to elevate your expectations too much. Yes, ALBW opens up a lot the further it goes but it still borrows (or takes) heavily from ALTTP. Consider it a remix of ALTTP. The wall mechanic also adds a new spin to the puzzles. There’s also some perspective fun that you can play with when you have the 3D on, but it’s not necessary. I think you should give it another try!
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Post by Sarge on May 12, 2023 14:21:12 GMT -5
I forgot to talk about ALBW - I really enjoyed that one. At least a 9/10. Minish Cap was also great - I've actually beaten that one multiple times.
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Post by toei on May 12, 2023 14:49:07 GMT -5
Yeah, Minish Cap is very much in the vein of the Oracle games. I like a little more than either. It feels like a good SNES ARPG. There are so many little things to find all around to reward exploration, and it also does the "overworld is dungeon" thing.
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Post by Sarge on May 12, 2023 15:15:45 GMT -5
My list from a while back.
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Post by Ex on May 12, 2023 15:43:07 GMT -5
I'll only list Zeldas I've actually beaten: S Tier = ALttP, Zelda 1, Link's Awakening A Tier = Twilight Princess, Oracle of Ages B Tier = Phantom Hourglass C Tier = Spirit Tracks Other Zelda games not listed, I've either played but not beaten, or not played at all. PS I'm clearly not the biggest Zelda fan on HRG. I do enjoy the franchise overall (especially when I was a kid!) but Zelda tends to fade in the background for me as I seek out less familiar stuff in its genre.
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Post by Sarge on May 12, 2023 15:50:09 GMT -5
Funnily enough, there's actually a chance you'd enjoy Breath of the Wild given your love for the original game. I used to love that one, but it's been supplanted by Zelda II for my favorite on the system.
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