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Post by Ex on Nov 1, 2019 21:03:10 GMT -5
Xeogred From the reviews I've read of Death Stranding, it seems to be exactly what I assumed it would be. Although I didn't expect the game to be THAT long. (BTW when you beat the last boss, there's a two hour cutscene before the credits even roll.) In short the gameplay is the weakest link, while the strongest is the WTF storytelling. Exactly what I unexpected from unbridled Kojima. As much as ol' Hideo wants to make Hollywood films, but also make games, I'm surprised he hasn't gone all David Cage by now. Basically make an entire experience out of interactive cutscenes, disguised as an "adventure game". Or hell, just go all Sakaguchi and make his own Death Stranding: The Spirits Within. I think Kojima has some genius to his design ethos, don't get me wrong. But I wager he's filled Kojima Productions with Yes Men, and that's never a good idea.
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Post by Jameson on Nov 1, 2019 21:59:57 GMT -5
Disco Elysium has been out for a while now and I'm getting the feeling from my CRPG circles that it has the makings of a classic. It's less of Fallout's tactical, TBS shenanigans and more of Planescape's laid back, choose your own adventure book. It is definitely visually impressive. It looks like one of those impressionist paintings. Or expressionist paintings? I don't know, but it looks damn good.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 1, 2019 22:17:00 GMT -5
I had no idea what this was, but it definitely looks interesting. Going to add to my wishlist.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 2, 2019 15:58:17 GMT -5
Xeogred From the reviews I've read of Death Stranding, it seems to be exactly what I assumed it would be. Although I didn't expect the game to be THAT long. (BTW when you beat the last boss, there's a two hour cutscene before the credits even roll.) In short the gameplay is the weakest link, while the strongest is the WTF storytelling. Exactly what I unexpected from unbridled Kojima. Kind of just makes me want to watch a YT movie cut. Even then, I've heard some of the performances are hit or miss and Norman Reedus' is stiff. Apparently Mads Mikkelsen really gets into it though.
I definitely think there is brilliance to the actual mechanics and game design of the MGS series up through MGS5, some of that talent is probably in Kojima Productions now. But yeah, I can't predict how things will pan out from here. I'm glad he's in this for the long haul at least, unless he truly does just start making movies at some point but that wouldn't interest me much.
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Post by hooplehead on Nov 2, 2019 20:18:56 GMT -5
I definitely want to check out Disco Elysium. I've heard a lot of criticisms that The Outer Worlds plays it very safe, but Disco Elysium definitely looks like something fresh and new despite its sort of CRPG throwback schtick.
Haha, the reviews of Death Stranding actually have me now super interested in playing it now. Both USgamer's review and the two Kotaku reviews sold it to me big time. Looks like something totally idiosyncratic and bonkers from a AAA game, which is pretty much a dead concept these days. I'll just leave this excellent hour-long spoiler-free review from Tim Rogers below. He also sold me on the Dragon Quest series with his DQXI review with his funny and also endearing way of looking at games. The stuff he brings up from his 2004 interview with Kojima is really interesting.
"The Gran Turismo of walking simulators."
or
"Breath of the Wild but if exploring was boring ON PURPOSE."
Totally grabbing this if my PC can run it. At the very least, it sounds like a memorable experience, which is something I don't think a lot of AAA games are anymore.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 2, 2019 21:22:11 GMT -5
I hate Kotaku but yeah, this review seems to be poking a lot of fun at Kojima himself and seems potentially funny. I'm not giving up on it just yet... I'll probably get to see some of it next weekend at a friends, who is an even bigger Kojima fan than me. I'll be interested to see what some local friends and normal people think of it. I agree, it's fascinating and great that such a weird project can exist in the AAA space. On that note, I'm sad that I think Remedy's Control sold very poorly, never cracking even the top 20's or something on the charts over the last few months. I think "Control" as a title wasn't a good move, it's hard to search for. The trailers didn't really do it justice either and despite the games AAA level production, 505 Games are a smaller publisher. I really wish Remedy would get their due they deserve.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 2, 2019 21:23:23 GMT -5
I tend to agree that Control wasn't a great title. Kind of hard to really know what the game is about. I'm absolutely going to keep an eye out for it during Black Friday, though; I know I'll dig it from everything I've seen.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 2, 2019 21:30:50 GMT -5
I tend to agree that Control wasn't a great title. Kind of hard to really know what the game is about. I'm absolutely going to keep an eye out for it during Black Friday, though; I know I'll dig it from everything I've seen.
Yeah, I think I'd give Alan Wake the edge on charming characters, but I prefer Control in all the other departments, gunplay, level design, main plot, etc. It slides into some campy X-Files like tones at times too as usual with Remedy. Love their stuff.
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Post by Ex on Nov 5, 2019 11:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 5, 2019 21:14:43 GMT -5
I guess it should be better than Spirits Within at least. But yeah it seems inevitable with his obsession all things Hollywood.
I would like to keep playing new Kojima games that I like but ultimately, if I don't, he still left behind the MGS franchise that will forever be special to me.
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