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Post by Chainsaw Bilqis on Nov 8, 2019 21:45:23 GMT -5
Sure, I will write up something about it, any chance to type about SaGa is fun for me. Maybe I can post it in Member Articles.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 8, 2019 21:52:42 GMT -5
Chainsaw Bilqis: I know you're not the only SaGa superfan; there are a few folks over at Talking Time that are also big boosters of the series. Even got a whole Kawazu thread!
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Post by Chainsaw Bilqis on Nov 8, 2019 22:10:37 GMT -5
Chainsaw Bilqis : I know you're not the only SaGa superfan; there are a few folks over at Talking Time that are also big boosters of the series. Even got a whole Kawazu thread! I've seen that forum a couple times and thought about registering, but then I found out it is based on a podcast or something? And since I don't listen to podcasts I figured I would not know much of what is going on there haha. So I joined this forum instead on recommendation of Xeogred haha. I will try to be more active hopefully. Ok, I am going to write my Ode to SaGa Frontier now haha (I am not saying it is a good game for others or anything, this is not a game I can separate from my own childhood so I am not going to be objective in writing it haha).
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Post by Ex on Nov 8, 2019 22:20:52 GMT -5
Maybe it's not a SaGa game, but I loved this Kawazu experience: One of the very best Wii games. - Chainsaw Bilqis I've tried Talking Time in the past. It just wasn't my scene. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice knowledgeable folks over there. But quite a few members there are unnecessarily snide (including the founder), and there's a certain political persuasion that is pushed very hard as well. Just wasn't a very friendly place in my experience. But who knows, you might like it.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 8, 2019 22:23:28 GMT -5
It's more that the community congealed around Jeremy Parish. I don't always fit in over there, but there are some solid folks. I spend a lot more time here, though.
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Post by Ex on Nov 8, 2019 22:26:47 GMT -5
Metal Saga is decent, pretty good even, but not anywhere as good as Metal Max Returns Thanks for the pro-tip!
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 8, 2019 22:37:42 GMT -5
I'm surprised Sarge name drops them so much... I couldn't stomach much of Retronauts and a certain someone runs that podcast. Just glancing over their forum (the forum and thread names, etc) is enough of a red flag for me. And hey if their people are reading this and hate me, cool beans. There's different places for everyone.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 8, 2019 23:01:43 GMT -5
Yeah, different communities for different folks. I mostly just talk in the retro threads. Like I said, I think there are a few folks that would fit in well over here.
I haven't actually listened to Retronauts for more than about ten minutes; I'm not really a podcast guy, anyway.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 8, 2019 23:05:14 GMT -5
I haven't actually listened to Retronauts for more than about ten minutes; I'm not really a podcast guy, anyway. I'd say keep it that way if you want to remain a fan of their forums, heh. I echo Ex's thoughts above, but I listened to the podcast for awhile too and I'm not sure why. I think because it was the only classic gaming podcast I knew of awhile back and gave a try. They often got facts wrong and for being as popular as they are, broadcasting a bunch of false info to the masses drove me nuts. Along with with not jiving with any of the hosts. Definitely wasn't for me.
Bring the good ones over here!
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Post by Chainsaw Bilqis on Nov 9, 2019 0:55:03 GMT -5
Why I Like SaGa Frontier (I think this is on topic because I will also mention Romancing SaGa 3 which is getting that new release): I grew up playing the NES, but I was never really great at games (and even today I am not the best). One thing about me is I have very low self-confidence. I don't know why, I just have always been that way. This is silly, but as a kid I would limit myself to just the early worlds in Super Mario Bros 3, then when I got too far I would hand it off to my mother to play because I was so lacking in confidence that I would not even dare try those later worlds myself haha. So then I'd watch her try to beat it instead. As a young kid I was thinking "Yes, these later levels are for the grown ups, I'm just a kid" haha. Ah, anyway, I love the SaGa games for giving me my gaming confidence, stupid as it sounds and is (because yes, it is stupid haha). Hmm, how to explain it. I will start off with something leading up to my SaGa Frontier journey: Diehard Gamefan. This was "my" game magazine growing up. When you are young, you kind of latch on to something that speaks to you and Gamefan was that for me and I assume a lot of other kids my age who liked games, not just in a casual way, but in a "besides school and chores games are my life" way haha. The import game coverage, the crazy Nick Rox layouts, the goofy avatars (that still looked a bit cooler than Gamepro's avatars haha), the "2D isn't dead yet" attitude haha. I know if someone went back and looked at those old reviews and the perhaps cheesy enthusiasm of them they would laugh :B (or be creeped out when you read about the behind the scenes stories of the magazine and all that, but I'm solely focusing on the printed page). But for a kid not yet disillusioned with gaming or with life, it was a nice read to get you daydreaming about games during study period. Sure, I'd also read EGM, Gamepro, had my Nintendo Power subscription, etc. but Gamefan was the "one" for me that I would carry around and read by myself at lunch haha. Well, I don't recall Gamefan caring too much for SaGa Frontier (I can't remember their scores for it haha, think they were pretty low...maybe it got a silver in EGM but I think EGM was just giving all JRPGS silvers at least at this particular point in time - not like I ever took the actual score of a game seriously haha, when Gamefan gave a game like The Fireman 2: Pete & Danny (1995) a super low score, all I could think of was how cool it looked and thank them for introducing it to me because no other mag would)...but anyway, I bring it up because they were all over FFVII in terms of coverage, the FFVII hype was big time. I loved console JRPGs as a kid (I never had a good enough computer to play computer games, so to me JRPGs were just "RPGs" for the longest time). "Epic Center" was the first place I'd look for in Nintendo Power when I got it in the mail. Many of my youthful hours were spent on Earthbound (another big time game for me back in the day), Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IV and VI (which I knew as II and III), Robotrek, Lunar Eternal Blue on Sega CD, you know, the usual suspects (okay, Robotrek is an unusual suspect). Anyway, FFVII was the big news coming. A part of me was disappointed in the transition to 3D though, the game still looked cool but the beautiful spritework of the 16-bit era seemed to be disappearing (well, Arc the Lad 1 and 2 looked wonderful, but were not allowed over here according to Sony of America's policy at the time and all that, then Working Designs was taking forever with the Albert Odyssey Saturn release, etc). I am rambling too much. The point is, the success of FFVII paved the way for more JRPGs on the 32-bit consoles and beyond to be released in America, no doubt about it. Square games that originally probably would not have been localized were, and that includes SaGa Frontier. I often wonder how a game like Romancing SaGa 3 would be seen if it actually did come out in the US back in the day! That would have been fun to see haha (maybe more quick returns for a game than Demon's Crest did?). Anyway, there was definitely hype for SaGa Frontier when it was getting ready for release, some magazines saying "You thought FFVII was great, wait until you see this" haha, which is hilarious if you read that stuff now knowing how it turned out :B. Ah, SaGa Frontier ended up totally not palatable to those people looking for the next FFVII haha. Ok, where I am going with this, I will post in my next message, sorry, I am just trying to set the scene. I know I will regret writing all this in the morning though haha :B. For now I need to get some rest, and when I wake up finally explain my bad taste haha, by getting down to the essence of SaGa Frontier.
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