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Post by Ex on Aug 6, 2024 0:22:55 GMT -5
New trailer for the next Zelda game: Hey I'll bet the gameplay will be fun. But if I'm being honest, those graphics do not impress me. They look like they belong in a mobile game. Pretty sure Nintendo could do better graphically. Regardless, I'm glad to see Zelda finally starring in her own game again. Link deserves a vacation.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 6, 2024 9:38:19 GMT -5
I wonder if it's the same engine as Link's Awakening 2.0. I think it looks fine personally, but nothing I'd call "great"... Game looks really cool though. It's like they're putting the mechanical freedom of BoTW/ToTK into the top down overhead formula.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 6, 2024 10:03:55 GMT -5
Sure looks like it - I see it jumping from 60 FPS to 30 FPS a ton in that trailer. I know there's still time, but it sure seems like it needs some more optimization.
I didn't hate the look of LA, but I also think it could look better. It has that sort of Playmobil toy look, although maybe this one will benefit more from being an original game instead of a remake. I don't want to be too negative here, but I'm almost 100% sure this isn't going to scratch my old-school Zelda itch at all.
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Post by Ex on Aug 6, 2024 10:14:17 GMT -5
Since the Switch era it seems Nintendo doesn't value framerate stability at all, even with their first party stuff. I've noticed this sampling various Switch games of theirs. I can look past that if the gameplay is good enough. Echoes of Wisdom's may prove to be.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 6, 2024 10:32:17 GMT -5
It's all over the place, honestly. I think much of it is when they farm out to other devs - if I remember right, it was Grezzo that did the LA port. Some of their mainline stuff is surprisingly technically impressive - Super Mario Odyssey is mostly (mostly!) 60, and while Tears of the Kingdom dips at times, the fact that it mostly runs at 30 at all on Switch is crazy impressive. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what the Switch 2 will bring to the table in terms of power.
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Post by Ex on Aug 6, 2024 11:44:36 GMT -5
Odyssey was an early Switch release and doesn't tax the Switch's hardware at all, makes sense it runs 60fps most the time. TotK's framerates are sporadic, but it also has stuttering (load buffering) issues as well. From what I've seen/read, this has improved some with the most recent TotK patch. Those are just two Nintendo Switch games, there's a gamut of first party Nintendo Switch games with fps/stuttering issues. It's inherent to the hardware from what I've read, considering the Switch 1 uses mobile tech. I too wager Switch 2 will be a serious upgrade in power over the original Switch. I bet it will retroactively run Switch 1 games appreciably smoother/higher res than the original Switch. Or at least the later gen Switch games with software hooks to take advantage of that.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 6, 2024 15:03:22 GMT -5
Even as the PC guy here over some of you, I won't say Nintendo's own-stifling hardware limitations have ever bugged me too much. I'm pretty much -never- going to buy a Nintendo version of something on other platforms in the modern era though. And all that said, it is still a bit surprising that yeah, Switch era Nintendo has some rough edges to it even in their first party games. Seems abnormal for them, but I guess that's just how little they care about paying a couple more dimes for more powerful hardware. Just thinking of coding/memory and things like that for Tears of the Kingdom is mindboggling. So it's a technical masterpiece in its own ways under the hood. Others would probably have trouble figuring that out on more powerful hardware. I still think Xenoblade 3 might be the most impressive thing to me on the Switch overall though. Still kind of crazy how big of a jump there is between 2 and 3. I don't envy Monolith Soft having to truly get every last bit of juice out of the Switch... I'm most excited to see what they cook up on the Swtich 2. Early PS4 levels of fidelity for Xenoblade? Oh baby.
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Post by Ex on Aug 6, 2024 16:11:47 GMT -5
Nintendo trades on nostalgia and generally above average game design, that affords them grace for technical disparity, with most their demographic. I don't want to come across like I'm shitting on Nintendo here, I'm not. They could do better with graphics/tech, but as long as they are still producing decent games fair enough. And agreed Nintendo has high quality programmers for their flagship stuff, that's evident. We've talked about this before Xeogred, but I don't think XC3 trumps XCX when it comes to graphics. For me XCX has far and away the most impressive graphics of that series yet. From what I've seen watching videos anyway (of XC3 and XCX). I'd like to get around to XCX sometime relatively soon. I kept forgetting about it because my Wii U is boxed up in my dork cave closet. Out of sight out of mind scenario. (set the video quality to 1080P)
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Post by Sarge on Aug 6, 2024 16:37:06 GMT -5
Hopefully your Wii U still works and hasn't bombed out on its flash memory. That's apparently an issue with some of the chips used in it... I've got the more robust stuff (Samsung), but some used Hynix chips that are prone to corrupting the firmware. There's a way to get it back up and running, but it's a bit of a pain if it's crashed out.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 6, 2024 17:53:59 GMT -5
We've talked about this before Xeogred , but I don't think XC3 trumps XCX when it comes to graphics. For me XCX has far and away the most impressive graphics of that series yet. From what I've seen watching videos anyway (of XC3 and XCX). I'd like to get around to XCX sometime relatively soon. I kept forgetting about it because my Wii U is boxed up in my dork cave closet. Out of sight out of mind scenario. I mean I won't argue, win/win and just a difference in aesthetic here. Monolith Soft are the wizards of Nintendo hardware thesedays and even helped development on BoTW/ToTK. As a longtime fan it makes me happy they're under a safe umbrella of sorts now and Takahashi can keep making his Xeno games for me. lol
Hoping XBX gets the remaster treatment sometime, works out some of the kinks and maybe changes some stuff for the better. There's not a lot of main plot there which is bizarre for a Xeno game, even compared to the other XB's. But it's a gorgeous and fun game indeed, with an amazing setting.
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