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Post by toei on Aug 14, 2024 18:39:32 GMT -5
I just had to check if this was the world's most blatant rip-off, or a spiritual successor from people connected to the original series, because Bakeru is so clearly Goemon, and that world is Goemon's world. The developer is Good-Feel. "Good-Feel was founded by the former Konami employee, Etsunobu Ebisu, on October 3, 2005." Ebisu? Like Ebisumaru, the ninja in all those games? And as per wikipedia, the chairman of the company is Shigeharu Umezaki.
As per mobygames: Shigeharu Umezaki: Programmer of the original 1986 arcade Goemon as well as 2 & 3 on the SNES, director of The Legend of the Mystical Ninja (1991, SNES), producer of at least 9 of the games, up to the PS2 Goemon game which is one of the last
Etsunobu Ebisu: Programmer of Ganbare Goemon 2 NES, Director of 2-3-4 on the SNES and the first N64 game, producer on at least 5-6 more
And that's just by mobygames, which doesn't necessarily have everything. So this is a spiritual sequel overseen by some of the main creators of Goemon, and not some shameless indie rip-off.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 14, 2024 19:26:18 GMT -5
toei saving this one from being burned at the stake by us, heh.
I've seen this sentiment a few times now with some old creators, still wanting to cook up another sequel all these years later, or do more. But it's not in the agenda of a lot of the legacy companies, so they have to crowd fund and go indie. Lot of respect for those who go through all of that like these people are.
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Post by toei on Aug 14, 2024 19:53:47 GMT -5
It just seemed to me like it was unlikely that a legit Japanese company (and this didn't look like a small indie title necessarily) would just rip something off so closely without some connection to the original thing. Reprising the general theme/concept, sure, but to this extent, no. A lot of Western indie developers have that amateur / fangame mentality where it's fine to make a game that is literally nothing but a clone of an old game, but then they actually sell it. I'm not saying it should be banned, but I see those games as inherently lesser, and I don't like when people talk them up and give no credit to what's being copied.
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Post by Ex on Aug 14, 2024 20:19:38 GMT -5
toei deserves a Pulitzer for his retro gaming detective work.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 14, 2024 22:25:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I was looking into it earlier today as well - I'm like... this has to be a spiritual successor, right? And yep, was glad to see it was a big Goemon vet behind it. That also increases my interest even more, because dang if I didn't really enjoy the middle two SNES entries, and some day I want to play through the first N64 game. The second N64 game was quite good as well.
The one thing I knew Good-Feel from was Wario Land: Shake It! on Wii, which was also quite fun. I'd forgotten until I looked just now that they were also behind Yoshi's Woolly/Crafted World.
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Post by toei on Aug 15, 2024 0:02:44 GMT -5
They made a bunch of games with/for Nintendo, mostly Kirby and Mario universe type stuff (Yoshi games, Wario games...). Only recently, after over a decade of this, have they started putting out original franchises - there was a shooter prior to this (Monkey Barrel) and then this spiritual Goemon revival published by Spike Chunsoft in Japan (so not Nintendo for once). So that's pretty cool for them. The Goemon I'd like to see Sarge play is the PS2 game whose fully-completed English prototype was leaked not so long ago. I think it was the last console release in the series. Maybe if he keeps playing them I'll eventually get into them myself.
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Post by Ex on Aug 15, 2024 9:18:12 GMT -5
Goemon fans like this: www.timeextension.com/features/the-making-of-mystical-ninja-starring-goemon-konamis-underrated-n64-classic- "Dragon Age: The Veilguard will launch for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, and PC via Steam and Epic Games Store on October 31"I'm not necessarily "looking forward" to this, but I'm sure some people are. As far as Dragon Age goes, I beat the original game and some of its DLC on 360. Still haven't finished all of the first game's DLC yet (mainly want to do Awakening). Have not played Dragon Age II or Dragon Age: Inquisition yet. The first game was pretty good, I'll say that. No idea about its sequels. I'm interested in playing them someday, but for now they're just more long ass life devouring games* in the long ass life devouring games pile. But hey! For RPG lovers who have time to jump in and beat new RPGs right when they release, The Veilguard is coming soon for you. *
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Aug 15, 2024 9:45:30 GMT -5
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 15, 2024 9:58:24 GMT -5
After Andromeda and Anthem, not sure I'll ever be interested in another Bioware game again. Major fall from grace watching them over the last two generations or so. But yeah, Dragon Age has some fans. I played 1 and beat Inquisition. They were filler games to me.
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Post by Ex on Aug 15, 2024 10:24:55 GMT -5
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