|
Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2021 14:57:33 GMT -5
Yeah. I don't think BotW is perfect, but it really was excellent from a gameplay/exploration perspective. And I've never played Zelda for lore, anyway, so the lack of it doesn't really bother me. I do think BotW did a great job of establishing its own atmosphere, though - it definitely didn't feel like "Generic Open-World Game #693".
|
|
|
Post by paulofthewest on Nov 10, 2021 16:08:48 GMT -5
I watched the Elden Ring videos and it does look like a polished Dark Souls + extras. Which basically means a must buy, if that is true.
|
|
|
Post by Ex on Nov 10, 2021 16:20:15 GMT -5
I might even get this game. I thought you didn't care about modern action-JRPGs? Bro it's about time you really sink into some Adult Zelda's He has played through the first Brandish and Darksiders. I'd love for Sarge to play through the original Demon's Souls though. Definitely a winter game.
(And yes, I still plan to play Dark Souls in December.)
|
|
|
Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2021 16:24:31 GMT -5
I don't think this counts as an action-JRPG. Despite being from a Japanese developer, it has very Western sensibilities.
|
|
|
Post by Xeogred on Nov 10, 2021 16:27:54 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but Souls feels like 3D Secret of Mana in ways to me. lol
I wouldn't flinch at anyone calling Souls ARPG's. Especially if you get super in the weeds with them vs Sekiro (leans more character action in ways)... but yeah. I don't like when people call Zelda RPG's, sooooooo. It's one of those hyper subjective things probably.
|
|
|
Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2021 16:33:19 GMT -5
Okay, you're crazy. In all seriousness, Souls games are ARPGs, and I don't think there's really any argument against that. By the same token, I have no issues calling Zelda an ARPG - it has many of the aspects one would expect from the genre, and I don't think experience points/leveling is a requirement for the genre. But I also know we've hashed over this many times, haha! Nintendo Power used to classify Zelda and games of its type as "action adventure".
|
|
|
Post by Ex on Nov 10, 2021 16:33:31 GMT -5
I don't think this counts as an action-JRPG. I'd be glad to see you play through a Souls game though. I agree with Xeogred , if you got hooked on the series you'd probably beat them all and have a great time.
|
|
|
Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2021 16:37:45 GMT -5
I mean, if you want me to get really, really pedantic, I can do it. I don't think country of origin is the determinant of what should be considered a "JRPG" or "WRPG". Souls is very, very Western-flavored. A game like Black Sigil was made by Canadian devs, but is absolutely a JRPG in style.
|
|
|
Post by Xeogred on Nov 10, 2021 16:39:46 GMT -5
Okay, you're crazy. ...and I don't think experience points/leveling is a requirement for the genre. This tends to be where I draw the line a bit.
I wouldn't call a few changeable tunic's or shield's much either. Souls has actual stats/numbers, stat distribution, HP/MP bars, and 100x more equipment than any Zelda. Head gear, armor, legs, and arms, along with rings/accessories. Can swap around four different things for weapons/etc. Also, character builds are a thing in all the Souls games. Not in Zelda at all. So that's a big one I'd say. That's where Zelda is more comparable to Metroidvania's. The end result of your main character is the same as anyone else's.
The SNES Mana's have a lot in common with Souls there and these games are like 90% action/dungeon crawling heh.
But yeah nothing to get too serious about here.
The joke name for Elden Ring I'm loving is simply "Big Souls".
|
|
|
Post by Ex on Nov 10, 2021 16:48:33 GMT -5
I mean, if you want me to get really, really pedantic, I can do it. Then I can whip out my pedantic and we can have ourselves a big ol' pedantic wagglin' contest. Honestly though - I can't think of any western action-RPG that played like Dark Souls does, before Dark Souls released? Souls has actual stats/numbers, stat distribution, HP/MP bars, and 100x more equipment than any Zelda. Also, character builds are a thing in all the Souls games. From what I've read, Elden Ring has character leveling. As in you actually gain levels, and upon doing so acquire points to distribute to statistical attributes. That's sounds very RPG to me.
|
|