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Post by Ex on Nov 10, 2021 23:51:20 GMT -5
we can make some reaches here but I think it'd be hard to come up with much that seems anything quite like Demon's Souls back in 2009 This game: Is very, very similar to DeS in many ways. I believe if anything is a DeS predecessor, it's that. What's missing mainly is the third person viewpoint. The difficulty is there though. It's special to me as well. Probably the best game I've played in the past five years. I'd also put it in my top 10 favorite games of all time at this point.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 10, 2021 23:56:26 GMT -5
At the very least I do gotta man up and play those two Shadow Tower's someday. I've seen others mention that was probably the real beginning of Demon's Souls and its ideas.
I always get the vibe you'll remain in the Demon's Souls camp vs Dark Souls debate. But I've been wrong plenty on your gaming takes haha, so who knows. Either way I suspect you've got another 9-10/10 ahead. Trying not to predict your reaction to the rest yet, we'll cross that bridge later. Here some of us are drooling for Elden Ring and you've still got 5 modern FromSoftware masterpieces to hit up heh. But hey everything in moderation. I've played tons of Dragon Quest's these past few years after getting into that series, but if I played them back to back constantly I probably would have gone mad. Gotta spread that gold out a bit.
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Post by Ex on Nov 12, 2021 1:32:41 GMT -5
I believe that if you were to play through the Shadow Tower games, you would come away from the experience having enjoyed it, and have a newfound respect for FromSoftware's pre-Souls material. That said, the first Shadow Tower is obtuse and difficult to say the least, the barrier to entry is not trivial - but it pays off soon enough. Abyss is a much smoother - though less challenging - experience. Even played on its own, Shadow Tower Abyss stands tall. It's one of the greatest PS2 experiences I've had. Also in playing both, you will see seeds of what later grew Demon's Souls and its successors.
Original trailers for these games:
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 12, 2021 10:24:33 GMT -5
Yeah I might try Abyss after Metroid Prime 3.
Spoiler free talk on SMT5 has me drooling and you will probably like what you hear too if you want to listen. This host Ben Moore is like my spirit animal and someone I trust as much as you guys haha, his tastes align very strongly with mine.
That said I think I have the willpower to wait. Shouldn't be spending much money right now anyways and I still have other stuff to play.
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Post by Ex on Nov 12, 2021 11:55:13 GMT -5
I would wait. Atlus has a habit lately of releasing updated versions of their RPGs a short while later. As in, additional content is added to the game, which wasn't in the original version.
If you get SMT itchy meanwhile, check out DDS or Strange Journey, I think you'd enjoy both of those.
I will get SMT5 someday myself, not sure in what format (hardware or emulation) yet.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 12, 2021 15:23:25 GMT -5
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 12, 2021 16:35:06 GMT -5
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Post by EasyHard on Nov 13, 2021 11:20:24 GMT -5
Atlus is a weird company by today's standards. Their games are basically single platform releases (with few exceptions) and their direct sequels have a very slow development cycles that often ends late in a system's life. I feel they've achieved financial success and popularity without concomitant advancement of raw development capability. Maybe being owned by Sega will change things. Out of curiosity I just checked Steam and Atlus has all of 4 games available on PC? It's hard to name a bigger anomaly.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 13, 2021 11:39:08 GMT -5
Atlus is a weird company by today's standards. Their games are basically single platform releases (with few exceptions) and their direct sequels have a very slow development cycles that often ends late in a system's life. I feel they've achieved financial success and popularity without concomitant advancement of raw development capability. Maybe being owned by Sega will change things. Out of curiosity I just checked Steam and Atlus has all of 4 games available on PC? It's hard to name a bigger anomaly. Looks like Sega bought them in 2013. Makes you wonder if Atlus still operates a bit on their own, because it's really looked like Sega's had an initiative to get a lot of their modern games on PC over the years lately. Most of the Yakuza's are up there now, some remasters like Vanquish, Bayonetta, etc. And their sales and ports seem really solid.
Atlus finally puts Persona 4 up there and the number of reviews dwarf most JRPG's on there, so I figure that sold gangbusters. So instead of getting 5 up there ASAP, they put that weird Strikers game on there that had pretty weak marketing from what I remember. Still no Persona 5... but now SMT3 HD is on there. Persona 3 was on PS2 (and portable maybe?) as well, so would that be hard to port?
lol yeah I don't know, it just looks like they're sitting on so much potential extra revenue.
Here's an example of what I meant about their strict streaming rules too:
I can see how streamers/content creators don't even want to bother with their stuff sometimes when it's this silly. Yeah spoilers suck, I get that. But it's also 2021. The internet is going to internet... it just reeks like the Atlus suits are in their 80's or something. lol
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Post by Ex on Nov 13, 2021 13:26:41 GMT -5
I was skeptical as stated before, but perhaps we will see SMT5 hit other platforms These days money talks and exclusivity walks. Bet on it. I'll get it on PS4.
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