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Post by Ex on Jun 30, 2019 16:06:36 GMT -5
July's theme is about replaying / re-beating games you've already done before. Then coming back here and reflecting on the experience. Will your old favorites live up to the nostalgic memories? Will you find new things you missed before, or come to deeper realizations about aspects that flew over your head as a kid? By all means you can just replay the exact same game you already played before. But if that sounds kinda boring...
Tips to make this more interesting: Try playing through a game you've only finished ONCE before. Not just replaying Contra or Mega Man or other games you've already beaten a dozen times.
Try playing a different platform port of the game you've already played before.
Try playing the game with a new (possibly more accurate) translation. Lots of our old favorites have unofficial fan translations now.
Try playing the Japanese version of the USA/Europe game you played before.
Try playing old games with fan community enhancements hacked in. An example would be Game Boy games that received DX hacks that make them in color now, or racing games with new tracks added. I'm looking forward to seeing what you all play, and how the second time around goes!
- Edit: On a personal note; I've got five games picked out for this thread. I'll be splitting my gaming time in July between finishing Nostalgia, playing "summer themed" games, and doing this theme.
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Post by Xeogred on Jun 30, 2019 16:28:35 GMT -5
Tips to make this more interesting:
Try playing a different platform port of the game you've already played before. Love this point! Lots of potential across the SNES and Genesis here. It's always fascinating how different the music can be, graphics (sometimes), and some ports even might have some extra levels the other version doesn't have! (Lost Vikings and Earthworm Jim on the Genesis come to mind. Though, then the Sega CD / PC version of Earthworm Jim has even another additional new level!)
Well, I replay games a lot more than most here, so I'll have to sit on this one to see what strikes my mood. The re-translation of Secret of Mana is one I've wanted to take a look at for awhile, maybe it would be ideal to play that one sooner than later before the Mana collection drops so I can hit up Trials of Mana there in August.
(I'd say overall I've always liked the Genesis version the most for the old releases, I think it utilized a 6-pad too for convenience, but it's admittedly been awhile and I'm not sure!)
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Post by toei on Jun 30, 2019 16:38:42 GMT -5
Maybe I'll play that new translation of the X68000 Lagoon, since it seems so much better than on SNES.
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Post by Xeogred on Jun 30, 2019 18:19:31 GMT -5
Frick!!! You know what? July 2019, just might be my own personal N64 throwback binge I've been thinking about the last few years. I finally took the one minute of my time to setup Project64, got 80+ some games and everything I could remember owning... having some fun with Rush 2 USA right now and it's a blast. Nothing but awesome cherished memories of the N64 but yeah, like most tend to say I think the PSX has aged better in ways and remained more relevant for me personally. But I still think the N64 has a lot of gems that others shouldn't overlook. It seriously just hit me though, ever since the PS2 launched... I think that's how long my N64 has been boxed up! Freaking 2 decades now? I still feel guilty for selling 30 some games just for a controller and Armored Core 2 or something like that, but yeah. I have a boxed copy of the gold edition of Ocarina, which is my crowning jewel. Still have Majora's Mask CIB too. Games I cannot recall replaying since the 90's / N64 days that I'm very curious to look over, potentially this month if this is my game plan: - Rush trilogy - Mischief Makers - Bomberman 64 - Shadows of the Empire I'm thinking all those will hold up, except Shadows of the Empire will probably be rough. There's some other stuff I never beat back in the day, like Jet Force Gemini... but I doubt I can go back to some of these 3D platformers outside of Mario 64. I laughed grabbing the 3D Gex games, I have fond memories of those, but I bet they're rough now. I hated Quest 64, but grabbed that one and some others for laughs, like Castlevania 64 (grabbed the Legacy version).
If you guys have any suggestions on settings for Project64, drop it here or in the emulation thread if you want. I first played some Goldeneye and that was a good way to get my Xbox One controller setup correctly. Although the second analogy stick for the C-buttons isn't super ideal... maybe I'll look into some N64 USB controllers.
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Post by Sarge on Jun 30, 2019 18:57:43 GMT -5
I'm definitely going to try to hit up some shorter stuff before I start looking at RPGs. I don't want to short-circuit my Shadow Hearts run. Revisiting Covenant after this, though, might be interesting, although I probably need a break from SH at that point. This might actually be a really good time to play through Seiken Densetsu 3 again. While I beat it recently, it was from an end-game save, and there's a whole other team and new translation I could use. Also, as Ex says, there are a ton of hacks out there, some of which improve or fix elements of the base game. Definitely a good way to re-experience a classic.
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Post by Ex on Jun 30, 2019 21:27:56 GMT -5
If you guys have any suggestions on settings for Project64, drop it here or in the emulation thread if you want. Three things; 1) The N64 controller is so unique, it's best to use a real N64 controller with a USB adapter. 2) Set P64 to run in a lower resolution, or a lower resolution window, that can help with the texture edge gaps. 3) Disable that yucky bilinear filtering.
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Post by Xeogred on Jun 30, 2019 22:45:36 GMT -5
Well the honeymoon was short. Seems like everything I played after Rush 2 had issues. Went through a dozen roms to find one for San Fransisco Rush that even worked but it was still riddled with problems. 2049 chugs horribly, weird issues with Quake64, etc. Running in full screen seems like a smoother experience, but I'll bump down the resolution next time and see if that helps. Everything had some weird subtle red lines at times, maybe that's what you mean about texture edges? I made sure bilinear was off, along with antisotropic and antialiasing. Guess this makes me think an Everdrive would be more ideal. But nearly ~$200 for one is a lot! Might get one of the new Hori styled controllers if I work out some of the emulation kinks and want to keep playing more stuff: www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-Tribute-64-Controller-Nintendo/dp/B07Q78YN2T/
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Post by Ex on Jul 1, 2019 1:00:38 GMT -5
Well the honeymoon was short. Honestly I don't even use Project64 anymore. These days I use Mupen64Plus FZ: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mupen64plusae.v3.fzurita&hl=en_USThe catch being... its an Android emulator. Which is cool if you're playing on an Android device with a decent sized screen, and a bluetooth controller with enough buttons/sticks to accommodate the N64's inputs.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 1, 2019 13:27:25 GMT -5
That being said, Mupen64Plus is also on PC. N64 emulation has always been a little sketchy, though. I almost think if I'm going to emulate, I might look at doing some VC injections on the Wii.
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Post by Xeogred on Jul 1, 2019 14:51:24 GMT -5
So just how accurate are Everdrive/Flash Carts then? If they're utilizing the actual hardware, are they perfect? I'm thinking if I were to start and try to collect some N64 games again, in the long run maybe just buying an Everdrive would be more ideal and save me money. A new HDMI adapter popped up recently as well (EDIT: That price is nasty). That and these cool new Hori controllers that came out this year... seeing some nice reasons to dust off the old N64. Would you still need real memory cards though? I'm guessing so since that's controller related, lol. Maybe there's a modern solution to this as well? Some kind of micro card storage adapter would be neat.
Well I dug this up which is awesome:
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