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Post by Xeogred on Jul 7, 2019 20:54:51 GMT -5
Well I just pulled some 2019 cheats and looked up to the solution to that Lolo level.
Green can't walk on the green grass. ... so you stand on the top middle part and when green walks next to the gray and see's you, he'll fall asleep there to be a shield for you.
That was a pretty peculiar situation though, would have taken ages to find out naturally.
Stuck on this one now.
6 more levels left including this one. I'm positive this is not the Lolo I played as a kid... so maybe not officially fitting for the thread but I plan to play the others next. This has been a lot of fun either way.
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Post by Ex on Jul 8, 2019 1:01:59 GMT -5
Firstly, the map design can be very confusing. That's one of the things the hack I was talking about is supposed to help with. It has in-game relational map support: I think your 8/10 for this game is respectable though. I can understand liking Castlevania 1 more if you're just looking for pure arcade fun. But the added depth and complexity of C2 is more my speed, hence I prefer it. Looks like you're on track to beat Adventures of Lolo. Is this your first time beating this game? I thought we were supposed to be re-beating games in this theme. All the same good luck man, sounds like those last few levels are tough.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 8, 2019 14:20:02 GMT -5
Well, with the knowledge I have now, the flaws kinda melt away. Back when I was almost purely an RPG hound, the RPG aspects put Simon's Quest at the top. In some ways, it does the games a disservice to compare them, even if they are the same series. They just do fundamentally different things, and I think all of the NES entries accomplish what they set out to do. And hey, at least our version wasn't the FDS game, with all the disc-swapping! I think Xeogred thought he was replaying the one he had, but it ended up not being the same one. Which means Lolo 2 is likely on the docket. I'd be shocked if he had access to Lolo 3, but stranger things have happened. I've never seen a copy of that game in the wild, and the prices reflect that. I don't know if I'm up for it, but I'm very much thinking about playing one of the PS2-era hack-and-slashers again. I booted up Devil May Cry last night, but I'm not sure I feel up to the challenge right now. I'm actually a bit curious as to whether Genji: Dawn of the Samurai has held up, or one of my personal favorites, Onimusha 3. I don't know that I'm going to try to continue with Tomb Raider: Legend, because once again, my lappy seems to not be enjoying running it. I may need to pop it open and give it a good cleaning.
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Post by Xeogred on Jul 8, 2019 15:01:16 GMT -5
I will give Simon's Quest another shot someday. And check out Faxanadu. This stuff should be up my alley but the 16bit+ era of this style really beefed up movement abilities, so maybe they spoiled me. I still love Zelda 2 though. As for Lolo, I have no clue if I beat one of these when I was a kid. I was playing one of them before I could even read. I knew how to input passwords and jot them down at least heh. From the sampling I've done of the three, I do think 2 is the one I played. Maybe these would have slotted better in "Unfinished Business", but oh well. Having a blast and I'll probably keep playing 2 at least. Both sequels do a refresh on the difficulty so it seems like each game was a nice entry point. The lineage and history of Lolo is definitely weird. Only Western territories got Lolo 3 and the first game came out over here first too, then Japan. Apparently it's a continuation of the Eggerland series. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EggerlandI have some other ideas for the rest of the month on deck. Dark Forces perhaps. I must have pirated this game or have a disc stored somewhere, this one I beat in the early 2000's on some crappy old PC. Since then, I have had a hard time getting back into it but I might just grab the GOG release since their Dosbox is always setup better than Steam's. I don't even know how I got the Steam version, probably from some Star Wars bundle. I know there's the DarkXL Engine, but it sounds unfinished and extremely buggy. Then there's the PSX version I've gotten to work with an old plugin... but the vanilla PC version is probably still ideal.
Onimusha 3 holds up extremely well.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 8, 2019 15:30:53 GMT -5
Xeogred : Oh, if you like Zelda II as I do, then both Faxanadu and Simon's Quest should be right up your alley. I feel like they all occupy a similar design space, just different flavors. And while you're at it, give Battle of Olympus a go, too. (Although I don't think that one is as good as the other three.) Really, Simon's Quest's mansions are not very complex at all. As much experience as you have, navigating them should be a cinch. It certainly doesn't have anything as complex as Zelda II's palaces, even if the invisible floors can be sometimes annoying. Also, Dark Forces absolutely holds up. I played through it not too long ago again, and had a blast with it. I'd probably recommend the PC version as well.
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Post by Ex on Jul 8, 2019 15:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by Sarge on Jul 8, 2019 16:01:23 GMT -5
Agreed. That's an excellent hack that fixes problems in the original release.
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Post by Xeogred on Jul 8, 2019 16:03:20 GMT -5
3h30m. Only had to look up that one weird level with the green grass, glad my intuition was right on that one. Got through the rest on my own and the last batch wasn't too tough once I got past that one I was stuck on yesterday. Sarge: Did you play the GOG version of Dark Forces?
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Post by Sarge on Jul 8, 2019 16:34:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I used the GOG version. Worked great for me.
If you're handy with DOSBox, it's not terribly hard to set up manually either.
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Post by toei on Jul 8, 2019 16:52:46 GMT -5
The ending art is giving me Puyo Puyo vibes. Eggerland has to have been an inspiration for that series.
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