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Post by Sarge on Aug 1, 2019 17:38:17 GMT -5
I see TV as an entirely different beast, honestly. Even before the streaming revolution, there were always a huge number of folks that held out for network broadcasts of stuff. Or would pay for cable or satellite TV. The folks that bought box sets were much more hardcore about their entertainment. Same deal with music; lots of folks would just listen to music on the radio. The business model leap from movies and music isn't nearly as large as the sea change streaming gaming would be.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 1, 2019 20:32:21 GMT -5
Yeah that makes sense. I think that's the thing, I honestly predict that we'll still have some physical media and traditional consoles for years to come. But we'll definitely be slipping into that mega-hardcore fans only territory soon. And all the clones/emulation tech that improves over the years, will keep the older hardware continually relevant for people like us. I think you could also wager anyone with a desktop PC thesedays has become the minority as well. Unless you're serious about hardcore gaming, an office space, or stream for a living, most people and younger generations probably prefer phones/tablets.
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Post by Ex on Aug 1, 2019 21:03:31 GMT -5
becomes more of a norm with the sheep that are humans Dang sheepdrones! - I just want to say that streaming video/music does not equate to streaming games. Streaming video/music can be captured and converted into archived media in a variety of formats. Said media can be replayed using a variety of software or hardware implements.
Exclusively streamed video games are simply not the same thing. Even if you could somehow capture their raw code through their audio visual stream (which you couldn't), you'd still need proprietary hardware, a mainframe OS, and server farm capability to render that code into a playable state once again.
Apples and kumquats.
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Post by anayo on Aug 2, 2019 4:58:17 GMT -5
I was cautiously optimistic about Stadia until I read this. The TLDR is that myself and a lot of other people imagined Stadia to be like Netflix, but for video games. I could actually see doing this (paying a monthly subscription fee) for certain single player games I'm interested in playing but not interested enough to drop a few hundred bucks on a PS4. But apparently Google expects people to "buy" Stadia games for full retail price. So it's the worst of both worlds.
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Post by Ex on Aug 2, 2019 10:08:02 GMT -5
apparently Google expects people to "buy" Stadia games for full retail price "I can't wait to pay full price for a game I don't own, can only stream online, and have no idea when its playable accessibility expires." -Said no one ever.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 2, 2019 14:31:49 GMT -5
Precisely.
I think if Google felt they could get away with not charging for certain games, they would, but I suspect publishers don't want to kneecap themselves in the physical/digital domain.
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Post by anayo on Aug 2, 2019 15:44:25 GMT -5
Precisely. I think if Google felt they could get away with not charging for certain games, they would, but I suspect publishers don't want to kneecap themselves in the physical/digital domain. The online services for XBOX and Playstation already give their subscribers a pool of "freebie" games they slowly add to each month... usually the titles that have already been out for a while and are languishing in the bargain bin. So who knows, maybe Stadia will offer something like that eventually.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 2, 2019 15:56:15 GMT -5
I think that's what they're doing to start with. There's a stable of older games that are on the monthly service, but if you want newer stuff, you gotta pay up.
I'm not innately opposed to those use cases, especially not since, as you say, Sony and Microsoft already do this with freebies, as well as streaming alternatives. I'm okay with those existing, I just don't want our real purchases vanishing forever. Digital already undercuts a big part of the equation, in that you can't resell them, at least here in the States.
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Post by anayo on Aug 2, 2019 16:01:25 GMT -5
I think that's what they're doing to start with. There's a stable of older games that are on the monthly service, but if you want newer stuff, you gotta pay up. I'm not innately opposed to those use cases, especially not since, as you say, Sony and Microsoft already do this with freebies, as well as streaming alternatives. I'm okay with those existing, I just don't want our real purchases vanishing forever. Digital already undercuts a big part of the equation, in that you can't resell them, at least here in the States.Do you mean that in some other country the law mandates that consumers can resell their digital games?
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Post by Sarge on Aug 2, 2019 16:07:57 GMT -5
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