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Post by paulofthewest on Sept 13, 2020 15:41:15 GMT -5
Xeogred I have both Sn30+ and SN30. I like them both for different games. SN30 for non-stick games (like Octopath) and SN30+ for the rest. Both are very solid for their price. Although the Switch Pro controller syncs better with the Switch, but it is a minor issue. I haven't tried connecting it to any other machines.
Ex Yes, grips, obviously that should fix the issue. Thanks!
Sarge I've had good luck with Logitech, so I'll give that a try if the grips don't work out. Although wireless PSX is *very* tempting.
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Post by paulofthewest on Sept 13, 2020 15:56:20 GMT -5
Poor Red doesn't get much character discussion or fan art I guess Ha, Red was definitely a main for my run. As a kid I loved the idea of having a pet be main and I found his limit breaks pretty cool.
To second Ex, don't let the 3D discourage you. Especially for some games, like FFT, they still look good. Suikoden is a good one as well, but be sure to carve some time out for that one.
I had forgotten about Resident Evil as well, which should be on my list. I think for me the PSX had a lot of games that I played once, thought they were good, and didn't touch again.
I too haven't played Valkryie Profile or Ghost in the Shell, but it will need to wait since I just finished Wild Arms.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 13, 2020 16:55:44 GMT -5
I really should check out the PSX Ghost in the Shell. I did like the PS2 game, didn't finish it for some reason though, can't remember why.
Games I'm planning to hit up for the PSX: Disrupter Future Cop L.A.P.D
Front Mission 3 (Emma campaign) Ghost in the Shell
Grandia Legend of Legaia Nightmare Creatures
Powerslave Shadow Tower
Silent Bomber Strider 2 Tenchu - Stealth Assassins
The Granstream Saga Thousand Arms Threads of Fate
Tomb Raider 2, 3, etc Valkyrie Profile
Vampire Hunter D Vandal Hearts 1-2
Enjoyed, but never finished. Want to give another look someday:
Alundra Breath of Fire 3 Legend of Dragoon
Lunar 1-2
There's probably more but those came to my glancing over some stuff.
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Post by anayo on Sept 13, 2020 19:12:37 GMT -5
I’m not sure. My earliest Playstation memory corresponds with question 2. I do have one other Playstation memory I’ve never posted before, so I’ll post it here. In 1995, my Mom took me to the grocery store where she bought some food product (maybe breakfast cereal?) including a sweepstakes for a Playstation console. The contest consisted of a maze leading to four destinations. Each destination lead to a scratch-off card. To win, you had to scratch off the correct choice and also draw the correct path leading to that choice. To my recollection, Crash Bandicoot was in the center of the maze.
I remember thinking a Playstation would be such a monumental prize. I couldn’t have been older than 5, but it wasn’t lost on me that the Playstation was such a high tech, sought-after piece of tech. It felt somewhat like that kid in A Christmas Story fantasizing about getting a BB gun.
In the mid-90’s my Dad worked in England and my Mom and I lived there with him. There was this place there called “The Jungle Bungle”. I think the American equivalent would be Discovery Zone. Anyway the whole place was basically a giant McDonalds playground minus the hamburgers. It was more or less a warehouse filled with padded obstacle courses and ball pits for kids.
One time my Mom took me to the Jungle Bungle and I found they had set up a Playstation with Tekken. I played as a tiger-headed chimera in a business suit. The visual presentation and effects on display were mind-blowing. My games at home looked like this:
If my Dad let me play something on his PC, at best it would have looked like this:
But Tekken on the Playstation looked like this:
It was just so dazzling. I spent so much time playing it that my Mom got on my case. She wanted me to run around play, not sit glued to the Playstation. But I couldn’t peel myself away. It drew me in like a moth.
At that age I wasn’t cognizant of the console wars at all. I was 100% oblivious to the novelty of Sony entering the market with their own gaming machine. I didn’t learn about that until I was in high school in the mid-2000’s, when I took an interest to retro gaming and educated myself on the history of the game industry.
From 1995 to 1998 I thought Playstation graphics looked sick. During those years I had an NES followed by a Sega Genesis. I enjoyed both, but they were really showing their age by the time 3D polygon games took over. In ’97 my Mom used to drop me off at a daycare where they had a few SNESes for kids to play with. I remember commenting to a kid my age, “They should replace these with a Playstation or something.”
In 1998 I got an N64 for my birthday. I don’t remember what I thought of PS1 graphics compared to N64. But I was jealous of some random PS1 exclusives. Ape Escape and Digimon World, which I played at my cousin’s house, really resonated with me as a kid. It disappointed me there was no N64 version of those. I felt a pang of exclusion over other random PS1 exclusives, namely Star Wars Jedi Power Battles and Lego Rock Raiders.
I have vague memories of disliking the Playstation’s load times, but I don’t remember when in my personal timeline I felt this way. Kids perceive the passage of time more slowly than adults, so it seemed totally lame to me that I had to wait for my game to get ready before I could play it. I also wasn’t crazy about the short draw distance in some Playstation games. I wanted to be able to see far away, but Playstation games didn’t tend to excel in that area.
There is one specific negative impression of Playstation graphics I had when I got 007 The World is Not Enough for my N64. After playing that, I went to my cousin’s house and tried the Playstation version of the same title. I expected a comparable experience, but without any bilinear filtering or solution for affine texture warping, the PS1 version looked downright wrong to me. It was just so unsightly. I didn’t even know what any of those graphical characteristics were. I just knew it didn’t look as nice as the N64 version. But other than that I think I generally held both PS1 and N64 graphics in high regard. I knew nothing whatsoever about their underlying technical specifications, so I was oblivious as to whether one had more RAM or a faster CPU or whatever.
Probably Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater, and Atari Anniversary Edition Redux.
I plan to eventually spend a year focusing on my Playstation backlog, but to be honest, no, not really. Many of the iconic Playstation titles that fans love don’t resonate with me. Today, my favorite console from that era is the Sega Saturn. This is probably because the Saturn specialized in types of games that were going out of style back then and are almost entirely extinct now, such as 2D sprite-based and arcade games. To me, many of the Playstation's most cherished titles seem more like the caveman ancestor of what modern gaming would eventually turn into. So when I play Sega Saturn, I feel as though I’m experiencing something altogether unique. Whereas Playstation games feel like a more primitive version of what we have now. One could argue this is because I didn’t grow up with a Playstation and don’t have nostalgia for it. But I harbor the same sentiment toward the N64, which I am nostalgic for and did grow up with.
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Post by Ex on Sept 13, 2020 20:46:12 GMT -5
grips, obviously that should fix the issue I don't use grips on any controllers, but I use them on some of my handhelds. My DS Lite, 3DS, and Vita for instance, all have aftermarket grips attached. Those help my hands from cramping as you are describing. I'm a big believer in grips! Disrupter ****
Future Cop L.A.P.D ****
Front Mission 3 (Emma campaign) *
Ghost in the Shell *
Grandia **
Legend of Legaia **** Nightmare Creatures **
Powerslave ** Shadow Tower *
Silent Bomber ** Strider 2 *
Tenchu - Stealth Assassins *
The Granstream Saga **
Thousand Arms **
Threads of Fate *
Tomb Raider 2, 3, etc **** Valkyrie Profile *
Vampire Hunter D ****
Vandal Hearts 1-2 **
Alundra ** Breath of Fire 3 ***
Legend of Dragoon
Lunar 1 * Lunar 2 ** * = Endorsed by Ex as quality gaming. ** = I too, would like to play through these. *** = Not recommended by Ex. **** = I've no interest in playing.
To me, many of the Playstation's most cherished titles seem more like the caveman ancestor of what modern gaming would eventually turn into. I see where you are coming from with that statement, and I think you are correct concerning certain genres. But there are so many extremely unique games on the PlayStation, which have no modern successor. Just two examples: The PlayStation's library is so large, that it houses multitudes of hidden gems. That said, if you're looking for FPS, third person shooters, cinematic action-adventure... yeah those genres improved in further iterations of this brand.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 14, 2020 2:49:25 GMT -5
Wow, how could I forget about Tekken!?! So many great memories with those first three, especially 3.
Did you guys hear about this one recently?
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Post by EasyHard on Sept 14, 2020 7:28:56 GMT -5
Trap Gunner is another one of those unique-genre kind of games. Haven't played it myself, so I can't vouch for it. For all the attention and influence FF7 had on JRPGS, I don't think it is often remarked upon how the PS1 era oddly has, like, the highest density of strategy & tactic JRPGs.
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Post by Ex on Sept 14, 2020 8:32:56 GMT -5
EasyHardTrap Gunner is another good example of the kind of unique, one-off games you can find on PS1. That was one of the games we used to play local multiplayer, on the PS1 I talked about modding with PS-X-Change. I wasn't super fond of Trap Gunner myself, but my friends liked it. The PS1 games we ultimately put the most time into multiplayer-wise, were these:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 12:59:27 GMT -5
These are the same for me. I might have seen the PS1 in a magazine or heard someone mention it, but I didn't really pay attention until I first played Twisted Metal. This must have been early 96, though my memory is really hazy. It really was unlike anything I had played before, but I can't say I was as enamored with it as my friends. I was still taken with the Genesis and Super Nintendo. The next game I played was Oddworld, probably summer 98. Maybe something else. These were neat, but I remember after playing a bit of Oddworld we turned the game off and played Super Mario Kart instead.
It would take until 2000 when I first got a PS1 of my own and actually started digging into the library.
Definitely. The Saturn was not even close to being on my radar (and I don't think I knew anyone who had a 32X either), so there went Sega, and overall despite some really fun multiplayer games, I never loved the N64. I remember playing around with Diddy Kong Racing and feeling so bored with it while I looked at pictures of Final Fantasy VII in magazines.
This is probably when I became a "retro gamer," as I spent most of 1996-2000 catching up on Super Nintendo games I hadn't previously played.
To be honest, I don't think I cared about graphical prowess until the 360. Watching a Madden game played on the 360 was the first moment I looked at a game and was really in awe. So there were improvements, but Oddworld isn't that big of a step-up from Donkey Kong Country. The 3D stuff was cool, but I don't think I got how big of a difference it was from games like Doom.
Unfortunately, there are still too many games for it I've not played. Off the top of my head, stuff I play and enjoy would include Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy IX, Metal Gear Solid, Breath of Fire III, and Ogre Battle. Tons of RPGs I haven't played, but with my waning interest in the genre and my preference for shooters on the Saturn, my interest in the PS1 has all but collapsed. I just don't play it nearly as much as 8/16 bit (or Saturn for the shooters).
PS1 and PS2 probably on par, but despite what I said above, I do actually still show it some love from time to time.
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Post by toei on Sept 14, 2020 13:31:01 GMT -5
@opwuaioc If you have some recommendations for Saturn shooters, I'd be interested. Arcade ports are fine, but it's even better if it's an original.
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