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Post by Ex on Jun 28, 2021 16:14:12 GMT -5
I remember watching a couple of episodes of Enterprise when it came out, but I couldn't get into it. A lot of people say it i s better than you think, but not great. The first season of Enterprise is rather bad. The second season becomes considerably better. The third season (thus far) is practically a reboot and is pretty good. Both are fantastic in their own way. I agree. TNG just barely edges out the original ST for me. TNG just had better writing overall, and obviously better special effects. And Worf.
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Post by anayo on Jul 23, 2021 6:47:18 GMT -5
The way I had been told was like “Seven years ago I used to not like spicy food, but now I like it a lot.”
We seem to have a recurring theme where I dislike a game that everyone loves, then you chime in and say, “It’s okay, I didn’t like it either.” I find it weirdly reassuring when that happens. lol
It just occurred to me that I gave up on Lunar for the Sega CD, too. Everything about it was so “by the numbers” that I lost interest after an hour or two.
LMAO. Well so much for talking around it. To be fair, the other one I loved was Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door. And yes Earthbound is on my bucket list. AVGN's video on it planted the idea in my head. I like how zany it looks.
It did recently occur to me (specifically while playing Dungeon Keeper) that I no longer have my childhood patience for RPGs, but I’ll manage random BS in an RTS for hours and hours. I’m not sure why KOTOR, FFVIII, Lunar, Golden Sun: The Lost Age lost their luster for me, while RTSes just make the hours melt away. My brain is weird.
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Post by Xeogred on Jul 23, 2021 7:52:36 GMT -5
Well, since you don't sound too big on JRPG's, maybe you will like the unorthodox Earthbound.
I think it absolutely sucks. That kind of RPG is not for me! The AVGN episode was fun enough and all I need from that one.
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Post by toei on Jul 23, 2021 8:58:05 GMT -5
I love Earthbound. That is all.
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Post by Ex on Jul 23, 2021 9:37:23 GMT -5
I didn't play the SEGA CD version, but I did beat the PS1 version ( Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete). I remember liking certain aspects of it, but not others, the battle system for instance didn't excite me. IIRC, I gave it a 7/10. The exuberant characters and robust dialogues were the high points, the battle system and encounter rate the lows. Cool, that one is on my list of RPGs to play someday. The only games in the series I've beaten so far are Super Mario RPG - Legend of the Seven Stars and the original Paper Mario. If I recall correctly, I gave SMRPG a 9/10, and Paper Mario I think I gave an 8/10. I say "think" because I didn't start recording my ratings/beats into HLTB until 2013. I've read Thousand Year Door is quite good from reliable sources, but I have to be in a real special mood to desire 30-40 hours of Mario storytelling.
I've never played through Earthbound, nor its predecessor or sequel, so I can't attest to their quality or lack of. The reason I've not played them yet is mostly superficial; I do not care for their art design at all. Perhaps that's shallow, but staring at art design I do not find appealing for dozens of hours isn't much of a motivator, even if the writing is above average. As I've gotten older, my patience for high frequency random encounters, combined with a simplistic battle system, against mobs of pushover enemies, isn't what it used to be either. That is not to say I do not still enjoy JRPGs - I do. But I'm very picky about which ones I'll bother finishing these days. Some JRPGs have more tolerable encounter rates, with strong battle systems, against enemies that actually put up a fight. That's my ideal... yet such JRPGs are the exception, not the rule. Anyway, there is such a thing as JRTS games. Games made in Japan that combine JRPG aspects with real time strategy gameplay. There's a fair amount of them actually. Not long ago I beat two on DS, which I enjoyed overall: We could probably put together a list of at least a dozen JRTS games. So that's something you might want to consider, if you want a different take on the RTS genre, versus how western developers utilized the concept.
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Post by toei on Jul 23, 2021 14:27:34 GMT -5
I considered the Lunar games overrated even in my diehard RPG fan days. I thought they were good overall, but certainly not great. The first game especially had some very lazy dungeon design. Still, there was something very impressive about playing a RPG with voice acting and anime cutscenes in the early '90s.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 23, 2021 16:03:41 GMT -5
Lunar: Silver Star is fine. It's a B-tier game, good for what it is. Eternal Blue, though, was my jam. I will always rep the Sega CD version over the PSX game, too, for reasons I've gone into elsewhere. I've beaten both, though.
Speaking of beating games, I've only played through half of Silver Star for PSX, but I have finished both the Sega CD version and the PSP remake. There's also a GBA version I've played a bit of. Why Silver Star needed that many remakes, I do not know. But at least none of them are Dragon Song, a truly execrable JRPG.
EarthBound is basically "quirky Dragon Quest". I really enjoyed it back in the day, both for the combat itself and the silly sense of humor. If memory serves, Dan Owsen (of Nintendo Power) did much of the editing and rewriting when certain jokes didn't translate well at all (localization vs. translation!), and did a fantastic job of it.
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Post by paulofthewest on Jul 23, 2021 19:02:57 GMT -5
When I played earthbound I could tell it was a good game, but the childness level did turn me away eventually.
I've only play Luna: Silver Star. Once day, Eternal Blue, one day...
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Post by Ex on Jul 23, 2021 19:36:14 GMT -5
the childness level did turn me away That's a good way to put it, it's that vibe I don't connect with.
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Post by Xeogred on Jul 23, 2021 19:43:53 GMT -5
I got far into both of them on the PSX but never beat them for some reason. Kind of like toei said, I did love how ANIME they were. It was probably around that era when I started to make the connection between anime and Japanese games. Started getting into anime around middle school.
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