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Post by anayo on May 25, 2022 16:06:52 GMT -5
One time I remember being ten years old at a flea market. I was browsing a video game booth where I found a copy of Zelda for Gameboy for $15. Having since played that game, I know 10 year old me would have loved it. But 10 year old me had no idea when he’d get another $15. My cashflow was so unpredictable that I decided against buying a game that would have given me hours of fun.
Nowadays it doesn’t matter if I spend $15 on a game. The limiting variable today is time, not money. Something else that 1999 me never anticipated is the significance I now attribute to owning a game in its original form. Nowadays I rarely ask myself, “Is this game’s $$$-to-fun ratio high enough?” It’s more, “Do I value this game enough to pay the price of owning it in its original form rather than just using my Everdrive?”
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Post by Ex on May 26, 2022 1:37:38 GMT -5
The limiting variable today is time, not money. That's definitely true man. Reminds me of this classic: That's been me since like 2007 at least.
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Post by paulofthewest on May 27, 2022 19:32:07 GMT -5
I'm in the quality over length camp.
One thing I would like to point out is that some games are fun to talk to with friends as well. Even if it is short it can be worth the conversation, or even a HRG post.
Others are worth it for that glorious 1 hour of co-op time with wife/friends as well. That one is hard to replace, especially with kids.
That said, I was somewhat miffed when I bought SMB2 brand new as a kid and beat it the first day. At the time I didn't realize the fun conversations later about one of the most random SMB games.
I understand what you trying to get at with the Joe example. To put it simply, I'm the anti-planner/anti-detail guy. So in the Joe example my response is more of a "What is the average? Can you afford it?" In the extreme case: you can afford 10 video games, where 9 were good ones and only 1 bad one. Then it was definitely overall worth it. Naturally what we experience is somewhere in between 9 good / 1 bad vs 1 good / 9 bad, so you just have to go with a gut feeling if it is worth it.
Also there are different levels of "good game" and that plays into the overall experience.
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Post by Ex on May 27, 2022 20:54:37 GMT -5
worth it for that glorious 1 hour of co-op time with wife/friends as well. That one is hard to replace, especially with kids. I agree 100%. I'm a super fan of local co-op, have beaten many, many games that way. Yet I could not care less about playing online multiplayer. I'm surprised to read that, given that you do complex low level programming.
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Post by paulofthewest on May 28, 2022 9:41:57 GMT -5
I agree 100% about online multiplayer. Online people can be the worst.
With planning and detail on low-level programming, it comes out as I don't care what the architecture is (x86, mips, arm, powerpc, etc...), they are all very similar to me even though I know the radical differences between them. Instead I picture the overall connections and how to make/break the chain. When I find out a piece of the puzzle that I believe is the culprit, yes, I will dig into the details, but it has to be important to the overall picture. I'm not going to dig just for digging.
In the end what happens is I never miss the big picture problem, but I naturally miss details. I've overcome this deficiency with strong debugging skills. I am also not alone in this methodology, but I can see how it seems backwards for someone on the other side of the fence.
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Post by Ex on May 28, 2022 11:07:53 GMT -5
I didn't mean to infer I was questioning your programming style. Not at all. Whatever gets the job done (correctly).
Modern debuggers are pretty awesome in general. Even for higher level stuff like PLC, I'm impressed with our engineering software these days. Although the German stuff can get a little carried away, but that's to be expected.
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Post by paulofthewest on May 28, 2022 17:18:30 GMT -5
Ah, I didn't see it as an attack. I have a lot of experience with planner/detail people at work, so the response has become almost automatic.
Ah yes, those Germans. I do appreciate the desire to innovate.
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Post by Ex on May 28, 2022 21:18:16 GMT -5
I have a lot of experience with planner/detail people at work Ultimately what matters is the end result, not the method. It's like I tell my wife fairly often; They pay me for what I do, not how long it takes me to do it. They are special alright: asecular.com/~scott/misc/toilet.htm
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Post by paulofthewest on May 29, 2022 14:21:57 GMT -5
The reasoning for the toilet is hilarious.
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