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Post by Sarge on May 14, 2020 23:59:02 GMT -5
Heh. But it's true. I'm cool with the "sanctioned" part. Wish I could actually get a decent PC Engine collection!
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Post by Chema on May 15, 2020 5:48:45 GMT -5
it's really hard to beat the value on this one, considering how expensive most PC Engine/Duo games are You're basically paying for sanctioned emulation and ROMs. Some would argue emulation and ROMs are already free and that's the impossible value to beat...
...just teasin' ya. I do hope you enjoy the system when you get your mitts on it. I loathe fact that many people who argue that are the same people who use outdated emulators and/or play on less powerful hardware than the mini consoles. The people they are criticizing are actually having a better experience with the classic games.
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Post by Sarge on May 15, 2020 11:57:16 GMT -5
I think the most annoying of this breed is the ones that say, "You know, you could just download the ROMs and get a Raspberry Pi." Thanks, buddy. I had no idea.
And to be clear, I definitely download games. There are lots of them out of print, and I have few, if any, qualms about snagging those games. But there is something just a little more special when you get a game from an official source. Basically, I don't deprive myself, but I definitely feel better when I get legit stuff.
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Post by Ex on May 15, 2020 12:29:51 GMT -5
The people they are criticizing are actually having a better experience with the classic games. Eh... that's a case by case basis. It depends on what emulators you use, what controllers you use, what video monitor you use... I don't think it's fair to pigeonhole unofficial emulation into a singular universal experience. That said, I get why folks like these mini-consoles. There's plenty of positives about the things. I personally don't look down on them, or anyone who enjoys them. And if ever one were to come out that I'd really like to have, such as an N64 mini or Saturn mini, it's highly likely I'd buy one myself.
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Post by Chema on May 15, 2020 13:11:41 GMT -5
The people they are criticizing are actually having a better experience with the classic games. Eh... that's a case by case basis. It depends on what emulators you use, what controllers you use, what video monitor you use... I don't think it's fair to pigeonhole unofficial emulation into a singular universal experience. That said, I get why folks like these mini-consoles. There's plenty of positives about the things. I personally don't look down on them, or anyone who enjoys them. And if ever one were to come out that I'd really like to have, such as an N64 mini or Saturn mini, it's highly likely I'd buy one myself. I had in mind the crowd Sarge mentioned. I didn't want to imply that everyone is an elitist; it's very much ok to dislike the mini consoles. insert code here
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Post by Sarge on May 24, 2020 21:12:13 GMT -5
Got my TG-16 Mini in. My thoughts that I posted over on the PC Engine Software Bible forum, slightly modified:
There's definitely input lag - I can feel it, although more in some games than others. Ninja Ryuukenden definitely feels a little wonky. I didn't really feel much issue in Soldier Blade, though, but I'll admit that I'm not nearly as well-versed in how PC Engine games should feel versus a system like the NES, where I have extensive time in nearly all the good games. I don't think there's anything on the system where the lag would be a brick wall like Tyson in Punch-Out!!, though.
Other than that, definitely saw other issues: pixel shimmer and sound lag. There's apparently no good mode for Ys, for instance - you'd think the first or third modes would work, but nope. I did see decent results with setting a fullscreen fill and setting my TV to 4:3, but I saw some overscan issues with R-Type (and nothing seems to get rid of it there). I knew the sound lag was going to be there going in, and while it's not a total dealbreaker, it's still annoying.
The system is big, though. It's definitely pushing the "mini" aspect. The cabling hookups are a bit of a pain in the back as well, but it's fine. I dug out my old phone charger (2.65A, 5V in non-"TurboPower" mode) and it seems to work fine for juice. Tons of HDMI cables, so I didn't unwrap the ones in the package.
I don't regret the purchase at all, but I do wish some extra care had been taken to optimize it all more. Just having an officially-sanctioned system with a ton of expensive games made it worth the money.
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Post by anayo on May 28, 2020 13:57:54 GMT -5
I think the most annoying of this breed is the ones that say, "You know, you could just download the ROMs and get a Raspberry Pi." Thanks, buddy. I had no idea. I'm not rushing to buy the TG16 mini myself, but I don't think it's right to gatekeep anyone for video game titles they're excited about. It would be especially ironic for someone who's into retro gaming to do that, considering how so many modern gamers think that playing old games doesn't even qualify as a hobby.
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Post by anayo on May 31, 2020 5:40:45 GMT -5
Incidentally, I ordered a new Sega Genesis mini on Amazon since the price went down to $50. Now I have a SNES mini ($40 from the FB marketplace), a NES mini (also $40 from FB), and a Genesis Mini. To be honest I think I'd like the TG-16 Mini too, I just don't want to spend $100 on it.
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Post by Ex on May 31, 2020 10:11:18 GMT -5
To be honest I think I'd like the TG-16 Mini too, I just don't want to spend $100 on it. Ah just wait a bit, I got a feeling this one won't hold its value too long.
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Post by Sarge on May 31, 2020 10:14:08 GMT -5
I actually think this one might end up being produced in limited enough quantities that it's not going to get cut as significantly. Maybe I'm wrong, though! I kinda hope so, so that folks can get their hands on it.
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