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Post by Ex on May 26, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -5
I also can't speak to the third game, since I never played that one. You aren't missing anything. I'm willing to send you my copy to prove it.
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Post by Sarge on May 26, 2021 21:05:55 GMT -5
I've got access via my brother, I just haven't gotten to it. I'd play Diablo 2 before that, though, and I do have the Battle Chest with that.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 7:41:58 GMT -5
Ex already listed games from 1990 1990 isn't part of the '90s? I mean, technically, since there is no year zero, the ten year period starts on 1 and ends on 0 (=10), so the "90s" would be 1991-2000. Of course, that's only a technical thing, as no normal person uses it that way.
Diablo 2 is a great game, btw, definitely does not "diablow," and much better than Dark Alliance, which I really wanted to like, but just isn't fun for a single person.
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Post by Ex on May 27, 2021 9:46:45 GMT -5
technically, since there is no year zero, the ten year period starts on 1 and ends on 0 (=10) / no normal person uses it that way I just did some reading up on this on the internet. I could not find a technically definitive answer as to when a decade starts and ends. Its a controversial subject. However polls indicate most people (myself included) agree a decade starts on 0 and ends on 9. Ergo the '90s would be 1990-1999. I remember when 2000 hit, it seemed the entirety of the world considered us to be in a new millennium. But there are year zeros. Just not a mathematical statement wherein zero = nothing. In regards to marking chronology, the year zero is just a year named zero. 1990 (year zero in this example) embodied the twelve months that transpired from the year of 1990 to the year of 1991. Finally at the end of a decade is 9-0, wherein that particular time frame embodies the twelve months transpiring from say the year of 1999 to the year of 2000. This 0-9 method thus gives us ten years constituting a decade.
Granted I did play through Dark Alliance in co-op, not single player. That surely influenced my enjoyment of it. Also I have not played D2. I have however, played D1 and D3 (both via co-op), and neither of those were much fun for me. I think Diablo 1 and 3 both had nice aesthetics, but I found their gameplay to be paltry and instantaneously dull.
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Post by Sarge on May 27, 2021 12:08:16 GMT -5
I guess it's just that we started from year 1, so it throws everything off if we're grouping in sets of ten. But yeah, in shorthand it's easier to just go '90-'99 and be done with it.
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Post by Ex on May 27, 2021 12:15:42 GMT -5
I guess it's just that we started from year 1 Maybe the Sumerian calendar, but the Gregorian calendar began in 1582.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 21:05:17 GMT -5
I guess it's just that we started from year 1 Maybe the Sumerian calendar, but the Gregorian calendar began in 1582. Man, I hate to break it to you, but there is such a thing as 1581. And 1481. And 581. And 81. But do you know what year does not exist? 0. It goes from 1 BCE to 1 CE (or 1 BC to AD 1 if you prefer). That's what they mean by there is no year zero.
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Post by Ex on May 27, 2021 22:01:13 GMT -5
I hate to break it to you, but there is such a thing as 1581. Never said there wasn't. I said the Gregorian calendar, the calendar the western world uses, began in 1582. That is not opinion, it is fact. The accepted year system for professional organizations, ISO 8601:2004, recognizes year zero. ISO 8601 prescribes, as a minimum, a four-digit year [YYYY] to avoid the year 2000 problem. It therefore represents years from 0000 to 9999, year 0000 being equal to 1 BC and all others AD. That means the International Organization for Standardization's opinion is that year zero exists, and has to exist to avoid data inconsistencies. Please forgive me if I take their opinion over yours.
I understand you disagree and you believe I am incorrect about this concept. - This thread is now going to return to talking about PC games from the 1990s, or it will be locked.
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Post by Sarge on May 27, 2021 23:19:00 GMT -5
Come on, y'all, it's just calendar stuff and we're having fun. We're having fun, aren't we? Aren't we? *insert Star Wars meme* Tell ya what, I'm planning on being around for the Y10K crisis. I mean, talk about lack of forethought. To the denizens that have put significant time into the Heroes of Might & Magic games, which one would y'all start with? They've always been on my list to give more time to, but alas, I haven't yet. I also hear a lot of different opinions on which one is best, but I think HoMM2/3 are both very well regarded?
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Post by EasyHard on May 28, 2021 7:15:23 GMT -5
Sarge I've played (quite thoroughly) HoMM 2 and 3. I don't think starting with either is a big difference, even though many people seem to love one more than the other. HoMM 3 adds more complexity (most notably lots of unit upgrades and a couple more factions), but from the perspective of learning these games from scratch I don't think it makes it harder to get into. HoMM 3 comes with so many campaigns and expansions it probably has too much content and I don't think I saw them all to the end. I recall fully completing HoMM 2, and it is still an extremely meaty game.
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