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Post by Xeogred on Feb 9, 2022 22:10:25 GMT -5
Give if your three hours King's Field rule.
Luca Blight is one of the best villains in JRPG history.
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Post by toei on Feb 9, 2022 22:41:28 GMT -5
There's a pretty cool gimmick at one point where the villain is so strong that you put together three full parties to fight him, and each party ambushes him at a different spot along the road.
Suikoden 2 was definitely not bad, but the story and characters really didn't make a strong impression on me. I remember the name "Luca Blight", and that's probably who I'm talking about above, but I remember nothing else about him. And there were parts of the game I found flat-out corny - a random vampire scenario, a random "comical cross-dressing" part, etc. For me it just wasn't as good as the first, and felt more generic. I think the whole "108 characters" thing really impressed me the first time around, too, but then it just became Suikoden's trademark thing.
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Post by Xeogred on Feb 9, 2022 22:45:24 GMT -5
Not like all those 108 characters are playable though. I thought the whole base building thing was pretty neat and really felt like building an army worth.
The Dracula stuff was absolutely in Suikoden 1 too by the way. It is pretty left field. But this series also has talking duck humanoids.
I think 3 has the best characters, but 1-2 have the best story with a bigger scope/war focus that I like. 5 was cool all around except for being a $5 budget game Konami obviously didn't care about. 4 and Tactics seemed as bad as their reputations suggest, didn't get far in those.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 9, 2022 22:49:05 GMT -5
Suikoden II has the slower start, absolutely. Once it gets rolling, I think it's better than the first game, but both are fantastic and well outstrip the rest of the series. Even if I am the odd bird that likes Suikoden IV more than III and V. Both of those games (but especially V) feel overlong to me.
I'm not sure I'd call Suikoden V "budget", though. Yeah, it ain't FFX or FFXII, but it still looks reasonably good.
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Post by Ex on Feb 9, 2022 22:56:14 GMT -5
Suikoden II has the slower start, absolutely. Once it gets rolling, I think it's better than the first game, but both are fantastic and well outstrip the rest of the series. Even if I am the odd bird that likes Suikoden IV more than III and V. Both of those games (but especially V) feel overlong to me. What was your take on this one in relation to the rest of the games' quality?: Also lest you gents forget, there's a fully English fan translated Suikoden on PSP now:
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Post by Sarge on Feb 9, 2022 22:57:45 GMT -5
I think a lot of folks are a bit down on Tierkreis (it doesn't feel quite like the rest of the series), but as a DS RPG I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. As long as you overlook that the main character's lines are sped up enough that it sounds like he's hopped up on something.
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Post by anayo on Feb 10, 2022 7:29:27 GMT -5
I finished Suikoden and I'm going with a 8/10. That's the same rating I gave the game back in 2007 when I finished it. My favorite thing about the original Suikoden is it respects the player's free time. It does what it needs to do, does it succinctly with great pacing, and the battle system is a joy. Good choice for this month man. It's starting to sound more and more like Suikoden needs on a spot on my list when I focus on playing my Playstation games.
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Post by Ex on Feb 10, 2022 8:02:47 GMT -5
anayoThe one caveat being, Suikoden is not a difficult game. If you're looking for challenging JRPG battles this one won't provide that. It's still a fun JRPG for other reasons however.
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Post by toei on Feb 10, 2022 8:14:33 GMT -5
Also the battles take 1/3 of FF7's time, if that. And the dungeons are short.
That DS spin-off always looked particularly uninspiring too me. The PSP game too, it just looks like a generic, unambitious low-effort portable RPG. Maybe it's not.
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Post by Ex on Feb 10, 2022 8:40:21 GMT -5
it just looks like a generic, unambitious low-effort portable RPG I can't speak to the gameplay (yet), but neither games are low-effort or unambitious in the presentation department. Especially the DS game is a real looker given the platform limitations.
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