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Post by Ex on Aug 28, 2022 10:37:11 GMT -5
September's theme is one of the most wide open we've ever had at Club Retro. " Missed Classics" is simply about playing popular vintage video games you've not yet experienced. This can be about playing them for the first time, or beating ones you played before but never finished. (This theme is not about re-playing classics you've already beaten though, hence "missed".) The "classics" part indicates these are games that both sold well, and were critically acclaimed in their time. We'll leave the ultimate distinction up to each participant in that regard. (Also it may be worth considering missed classics that were only released in Japan.)
Here are a few lists to dust off the memory banks:
(or at most up to 2012)
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 28, 2022 11:04:15 GMT -5
Could probably used some bite sized stuff after Xenoblade 3. Maybe roll 1997's Hexen II into this, but I don't know if it's really regarded as a "classic".
I do feel an itch for some simple FPS's lately though. Hmmm... I've played all the id hits (Doom, Quake), Unreal, Half-Life, Dark Forces series, Thief, Deus Ex, System Shock's, Bioshock's...
Maybe PowerSlave Exhumed?
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Post by Ex on Aug 28, 2022 12:29:03 GMT -5
Maybe roll 1997's Hexen II into this, but I don't know if it's really regarded as a "classic".
I don't think Hexen II sold well enough for that status ( it sold about 30,000 copies). It is a good candidate for the 1997 theme though. In the realm of classic FPS (meaning sold well and critically acclaimed), I'll once again recommend Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force to you. It sold over 300,000 copies and earned at least 15 million in sales. I bet you would enjoy this twenty two year old sci-fi FPS dude. I certainly did. "Elite Force was released on PC in September 2000 to an excellent reception from critics and fans."
“I was expecting better sales than what we got,” admits Pelletier. "But sales were good."
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Post by bosh on Aug 28, 2022 15:23:58 GMT -5
Similar to the other thread with the Norco review, not played a ton of Point & Click games before so just started The Secret of Monkey Island (And got rest of collection already released on Steam).
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Post by Chema on Sept 4, 2022 13:02:44 GMT -5
Finished Shinobi! I played the Sega Ages version on Nintendo Switch, which offers a few optional tweaks that I didn't take advantage of. In other words, I played the arcade version as it was released in 1987. What can I say about this classic? It took me a few minutes to get accustomed to the controls and limited moveset, but once I did I couldn't stop playing. Trying to reach the last boss made me lose a lot of sleep last Thursday. I'll sum up my thoughts the same way Ex does: + Great graphics + Level design that is challenging and overall fair. The moveset is limited, but more than enough to beat the game. + The lives system makes it impossible to win through credit-feeding. It might have been a nuisance in 1987, but in 2022 it forces players to keep practicing and learning without draining wallets. + Nice music + Doesn't overstay its welcome. + As expected from an M2 release, solid emulation. - There are occasional hazards and enemies that are unfairly placed, making it impossible to react on time on a first playthrough. - Some of the bosses had weak spots that were difficult to hit. I understand it's part of the challenge, but I didn't like the degree of precision the game demanded. - M2 could have included better CRT filters. Why do most devs never increase the picture's brightness when scanlines are applied? My rating: 9/10 As for my next game, I'm undecided between two games: Sam & Max Hit The Road or Sonic CD.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 4, 2022 17:55:23 GMT -5
Chema : Nice one! Do you have anymore experience with the series? Have you played the Shadow Dancer games by chance? toei got me into those. I think I like them even more than the Shinobi's. The arcade game is probably harder than arcade Shinobi. As for the Genesis, I still don't quite "love" Revenge of Shinobi like a lot do and I really enjoyed Shadow Dancer GEN. Shnobi III is still my favorite across all these games but I'll attest that it's like an entirely different thing and not very comparable to what came before.
I'm a big fan of Sonic CD. It contains more Sonic 1 staff and was in development alongside Sonic 2, so in ways it almost feels like the real Sonic Team sequel (not dissing Sonic 2 here at all, still a big fan, but I like 1/CD more). It has more verticality to it than some of the other games. Slower paced but I'd argue just as creatively adventurous.
People have their opinions across the 16bit Sonic's though, so it'll be interesting to see what you think. I also think both OST's are incredible, so it's a coin flip there. If you want something darker go for the US Spencer Nilson score (he did great work with the CD Ecco games too), but the EU/JP OST is more jazzy/upbeat as you'd expect with Sonic.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 4, 2022 19:13:38 GMT -5
Greatest Video Games of the 1980s - Filtered out played and sports titles:
Greatest Video Games of the 1990s - Filtered out played and sports titles:
Greatest Video Games of the 2000s Filtered out played and sports titles:
Greatest Video Games of the 2010-2012 Filtered out played and sports titles:
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Giving myself something to look over here.
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Post by Ex on Sept 4, 2022 21:04:35 GMT -5
Interesting that you rate the arcade version of Shinobi that highly. I have never finished the arcade version, only the Master System one. Your rating makes me think I should give the arcade version a try to see how it differs from the Master System version. I have beaten both of those games, and I recommend Sonic CD over Sam & Max. I found the latter to be disappointing given the publisher it came from. I also recommend the Japanese version of Sonic CD, because I think it has a superior OST to the USA version. Greatest Video Games of the 1980s - Filtered out played and sports titles: These are the top 10 titles I recommend most from the lists: 43. Maniac Mansion (1987) 32. The Secret of Monkey Island (1990) 85. Alone in the Dark (1992) 112. Full Throttle (1995) 114. Loom (1990) 58. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (2005) 61. Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne (2003) 74. Max Payne (2001) 121. Paper Mario (2000) 101. L.A. Noire (2011) I have beaten all of those, so am speaking from experience. For you in particular, I think beating Alone in the Dark is mandatory, given it's the true granddaddy of the survival horror genre as we know it today. Of the adventure games, you would most likely enjoy Full Throttle the most. And I don't see how you wouldn't have fun with the Max Payne games. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory is simply awesome and EVERYBODY should play it.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 4, 2022 21:07:39 GMT -5
Did you ever play Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? I tend to hear about that one the most for the Paper Mario series.
I know the original Splinter Cell pretty well, it was cool stuff. I don't think I ever beat the two Xbox sequels and can't remember them much.
I did play some of Max Payne on PC and enjoyed it. Think I just wanted to rock with the Xbox versions instead of PC, so I do have those now.
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Post by Ex on Sept 4, 2022 21:17:02 GMT -5
I own a legit copy of Thousand Year Door, but has of yet to play it. In the Paper Mario series, I have only beaten the original Paper Mario. I gave it an 8/10.
When it comes to gameplay alone (not plot exposition) for me Splinter Cell > Metal Gear all night every night.
No idea on how the Xbox versions of the MP games compare to the PC versions. I beat MP1 & MP2 on PC, loved 'em!
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