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Post by Xeogred on May 1, 2023 22:59:34 GMT -5
Hate to see it.
Death Loop didn't interest me at all either, since it was also online/co-op based. At this point I'm kind of thinking a lot of the key staff behind the older Arkane games have maybe just moved onto other studios or jobs out there. I'd love to be wrong and for their next game to come back to form, if we get one...
I felt a similar sense of dread when I played some of The Outer Worlds. I can assure anyone, that game isn't the same Obsidian that made the immaculate Fallout New Vegas.
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Post by Sarge on May 2, 2023 23:29:18 GMT -5
I don't even know if pushing them out of their comfort zone is as bad as forcing a clearly unfinished product out to the market. You would think companies would have figured this out by now.
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Post by Ex on May 3, 2023 8:56:51 GMT -5
Hardcore Gamer's Redfall review: hardcoregamer.com/reviews/review-redfall/440765/"From a studio having delivered far better and should in all likelihood have done so once more, Redfall is an uncharacteristically poor and cobbled-together brand of tedium. Shamelessly limping from one half-hearted implementation and excuse to pad out its run-time to the next. The killing blow undoubtedly coming by way of its PC performance. A bare minimum effort with such scarce appeal, Redfall stands as a devoid and near-lifeless pivot away from the standard we’ve come to expect from Arkane Studios. 2/5"Oof. Xeogred - I intend (especially if you don't let me forget) to play the first Dishonored this year.
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Post by Xeogred on May 3, 2023 18:10:36 GMT -5
Hardcore Gamer's Redfall review: hardcoregamer.com/reviews/review-redfall/440765/"From a studio having delivered far better and should in all likelihood have done so once more, Redfall is an uncharacteristically poor and cobbled-together brand of tedium. Shamelessly limping from one half-hearted implementation and excuse to pad out its run-time to the next. The killing blow undoubtedly coming by way of its PC performance. A bare minimum effort with such scarce appeal, Redfall stands as a devoid and near-lifeless pivot away from the standard we’ve come to expect from Arkane Studios. 2/5"Oof. Xeogred - I intend (especially if you don't let me forget) to play the first Dishonored this year.
I know you didn't care for Deus Ex: Human Revolution or Bioshock (I think?) much and I hope that Dishonored is the answer you're looking for. Definitely more hardcore than those, original, better designed, and the true successor to Deus Ex/Invisible War and the Thief games.
Alas, I've been wrong about your gaming tastes about 20 times now. So who knows! TO BE CONTINUED!
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Post by Sarge on May 3, 2023 18:53:51 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of discourse over this on Twitter, and apparently the consensus is that it could have been good, instead of meh, with a bit more care. It's not the worst thing in existence, and there may be that sort of pile-on effect that we see occasionally with other games. Seems like hyperbolic reviews really get clicks.
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Post by Xeogred on May 3, 2023 19:22:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I watched a streamer play a chunk the other night. He was on hard mode and the enemy AI is some of the worst I've seen in a bit. Was no challenge whatsoever. It's true Arkane hasn't really done a more pure action/shooter like this, but still, the vampire theme looks beyond lame and then all the always-online crap. Super strange direction for Arkane. Another year to cook and maybe it could have been a cool Borderlands like thing, who knows.
I just selfishly want them to stick to single player immersive sims. If only the genre sold better... At least the System Shock 1 remake should finally be coming out this year, Ken Levine's new -Shock styled game is soon hopefully, and I'll admit I'm still sitting on Cyberpunk. It checks some of the boxes for me between both immersive sims and something like the modern Fallout's. But yeah the genre has been in a dry spell for several years now. Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Dishonored 2 and the expansion, and Prey really spoiled me at the time.
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Post by anayo on May 3, 2023 20:13:14 GMT -5
Hardcore Gamer's Redfall review: hardcoregamer.com/reviews/review-redfall/440765/"From a studio having delivered far better and should in all likelihood have done so once more, Redfall is an uncharacteristically poor and cobbled-together brand of tedium. Shamelessly limping from one half-hearted implementation and excuse to pad out its run-time to the next. The killing blow undoubtedly coming by way of its PC performance. A bare minimum effort with such scarce appeal, Redfall stands as a devoid and near-lifeless pivot away from the standard we’ve come to expect from Arkane Studios. 2/5"Oof. Xeogred - I intend (especially if you don't let me forget) to play the first Dishonored this year. What I was hearing about this game in the media leading up to its release was making me think it belonged in this topic. In particular Digital Foundry brought up how Redfall was supposed to come out with a 60 fps mode, but they backpedalled and said, "It will only be 30 fps on launch. Then later we'll add 60 fps in a patch." Also it struck me like a corporate-mandated product Microsoft wanted so they could wave it around and say, "See! See! We have exclusives, too." rather than anything with actual inspiration or soul.
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Post by Ex on May 3, 2023 20:23:46 GMT -5
I know you didn't care for Deus Ex: Human Revolution Yeah I gave that one a 6/10 back in 2016. It wasn't great. I loved the first DE (9/10) and enjoyed DE2 (8/10). I haven't played Mankind Divided yet. I only put a few hours in it, but those few hours didn't do much for me. It was like a dumbed down System Shock with comically disproportional graphics. I'm willing to give it another chance someday, though. yeah the genre has been in a dry spell for several years now To save myself from typing three qualifying paragraphs, I'll just be an ass instead and say, I don't think today's gamers (as in the modern demographic en masse) are smart enough for immersive first person sims. That's asking wwwaaayyyy too much of average Joe gamer these days. supposed to come out with a 60 fps mode, but they backpedaled and said, "It will only be 30 fps on launch. Then later we'll add 60 fps in a patch."
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Post by Ex on May 5, 2023 9:10:55 GMT -5
XeogredHere's what Frictional Games have been up to. Amnesia: The Bunker releases May 23, for XSO/XSX/PS4/Steam/Epic. Getting major Penumbra: Overture vibes from this one. Not so much in a nostalgia way, as a "we ran out of ideas so we did that again" way. I wouldn't call what I'm seeing here "ambitious" or "innovative".
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Post by Xeogred on May 5, 2023 16:24:21 GMT -5
Xeogred Here's what Frictional Games have been up to. Amnesia: The Bunker releases May 23, for XSO/XSX/PS4/Steam/Epic. Getting major Penumbra: Overture vibes from this one. Not so much in a nostalgia way, as a "we ran out of ideas so we did that again" way. I wouldn't call what I'm seeing here "ambitious" or "innovative". Did you know this is the 4th game? Amnesia: Rebirth came out in 2020 and didn't look too great or anything. It wasn't open world but I think had bigger environments than the norm, so in a way I think The Bunker looks better.
But yeah, I didn't like The Dark Descent much. A Machine for Pigs I actually finished but was a different developer. So I don't have a ton of history with this series or know what to think. SOMA might be a miracle one off for them I guess (and I definitely don't want a sequel to that one, let it be stand alone!)
By the way Ex , did you know SOMA takes place in the deep sea? Maybe that'll give it a +1 to your priority list... and yes you do have to brave and navigate the giant ocean floor at some points. I thought it was really cool. The deep sea seems a little scarier than space to me in ways. SOMA is still in the same mold as these horror games, with no real combat and stuff. Which I do NOT prefer, but it makes up for it in the incredible story, setting, etc.
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