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Post by Sarge on Mar 26, 2020 22:22:44 GMT -5
Well dang. Yeah, I'd love a Saga remake. Getting the first PD is nice, of course - it's probably my favorite rail shooter - but PDS is much more desirable.
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Post by Ex on Mar 27, 2020 0:43:42 GMT -5
Well dang. Yeah, I'd love a Saga remake. Getting the first PD is nice, of course - it's probably my favorite rail shooter - but PDS is much more desirable. If this first remake proves popular, we'll probably see a remake for Zwei next. If that sells well, we might just get a Saga remake after all. Or better yet a Panzer Dragoon Mini remake! Now THAT would be awesome.
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Post by toei on Mar 27, 2020 0:47:35 GMT -5
Ex I know you're joking, but the only way to make a PD Mini remake would be to make an entirely new game and call it a Panzer Dragoon Mini remake, cause there's just nothing to be remade. Or just make it a mobile game.
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Post by Ex on Mar 27, 2020 0:58:46 GMT -5
I try to pretend it doesn't exist but the scars of disappointment do not fade.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 27, 2020 10:29:10 GMT -5
Zwei is already confirmed, so at least there's that.
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Post by Xeogred on Mar 27, 2020 13:27:51 GMT -5
Oh wow really? That's cool.
I struggled to get into Orta honestly, but maybe the originals are easier going and better? I definitely want to check it out eventually.
Last I heard PDS is one of those classic cases of the source code being lost... hopefully someone pulls a Blade Runner (videogame) and can dig something up eventually. But you would also think in today's technology it might even be easier to just make something from the ground up and use the official game release as reference?
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Post by Ex on Mar 27, 2020 14:48:07 GMT -5
maybe the originals are easier going and better? I beat the original, Zwei, and Mini back in 2016. These were my quick takes...
Panzer Dragoon
"Panzer Dragoon's a nice rail shooter for Saturn. It has impressive graphics for its time, enjoyable OST, and the game design is still engaging to play all these years later. Panzer Dragoon is held back by a few things though. Very limited weapons, only six short stages with extreme linearity, and practically zero replayability. As a graphical powerhouse rail shooter of its day though, Panzer Dragoon must have been quite intense to experience in 1995. 7/10"Panzer Dragoon Zwei
"Panzer Dragoon II Zwei improves noticeably on the original Panzer Dragoon. Better graphics, faster framerates, more varied level and boss design, and somehow even more impressive music. Innovations over the original are minimal however, with only two big differences. The Dragoon now has a charged super attack that builds up over time, and the player is given unlimited continues. These two additions make Zwei a little more easy than its predecessor, but the final boss is still no joke. If you're a fan of rail shooters I think you'll find that Panzer Dragoon II Zwei still holds up, and is fun to play twenty years past its release. And believe it or not, these old crusty Saturn polygons can still be impressive at times. 8/10" Panzer Dragoon Mini
"I'm not sure what made SEGA think creating a Panzer Dragoon game aimed at kids, for Game Gear, was a good idea. Considering the disparity between the Game Gear and the Saturn, it was a daunting idea to say the least. Well, they still did it in 1996. The closest equivalent SEGA could come up with was a Panzer Dragoon flavored Space Harrier clone. Not a very good clone, sadly. The game design here is as simple as possible. You pick one dragoon out of three, and then fly through five stages, fighting a mid-boss and a final boss per stage. Your interactivity is limited to dodging shots, aiming shots, and using a weak lock-on system. When you destroy enemies, they do not drop health pick-ups or power-ups of any sort. There's not even a scoring system, so killing enemies comes across as fairly pointless. When you finish a stage you get a password, but you probably won't need it. I beat this game on my first try, without dying even once. You see, this is a "Kid's Gear" release, meaning it's simple and easy... on purpose. And maybe for a five year old, Panzer Dragoon Mini would be a feasible choice. Except the lame music and lackluster graphics probably wouldn't hold their attention long. Chances are any kid who plays Panzer Dragoon Mini will put the game down out of perturbed boredom. SEGA licensed seven Panzer Dragoon games*, but Mini is the only one that never left Japan. Yeah, there's a reason for that. Playing Mini leaves one with the same dispassionate and disgruntled expression as the cover art's blue dragoon. Not even its rider wanted to stick around for this one. 3/10" I also tried playing Saga that same year, but it failed to hold my attention to complete its brief playthrough time of ~20 hours. There are aspects of Saga that I admired, but its overall game design can be really sparse and boring. I think Saga's reputation is artificially inflated honestly, due to scarcity syndrome and folks rationalizing their investment. That said, I'd certainly be willing to give a remake a try.
I've got a legit copy of Orta in my Xbox library. I've never played it more than five minutes though.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 27, 2020 17:41:22 GMT -5
Heh, I never invested in it and I still loved it. There are a few points that drag, but I still think it's easily a 9/10 experience. But we've all got different tastes!
I will say, though, that if there was a game that would benefit from a remake, PDS is it. But as I've said before, I'd even take just an emulated version of the original dumped out there for sale, just so I could be legit after all these years.
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Post by anayo on Mar 28, 2020 17:25:32 GMT -5
This kind of snuck up? The Panzer Dragoon remake is out!
I bought the limited run physical edition right away cause I'm a sucker for the Sega Saturn.
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Post by Xeogred on May 12, 2020 20:42:40 GMT -5
I keep forgetting that the new version of Romancing SaGa 3 has been out for a few months now. I have a hunch I won't like any of these, but those FF6-esque aesthetics are always ever so enticing...
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