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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 21:46:51 GMT -5
FFIV is the reason I got a PSP in the first place. I still have the game even though the PSP is long gone now.
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Post by Ex on May 18, 2020 21:52:31 GMT -5
How many threads can I resurrect before I'm banned? There's no limit. HRG threads do not die, they merely hibernate.
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Post by Ex on May 18, 2020 21:59:26 GMT -5
What's the purpose of a sword in a cyber/dieselpunk world? There's a deep seated admiration of swords that permeates Japanese culture in totality. It's a Japanese thing. And I don't mean that in any racist sense either. Japan has made the greatest swords that have ever existed on earth.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 22:03:44 GMT -5
What's the purpose of a sword in a cyber/dieselpunk world? There's a deep seated admiration of swords that permeates Japanese culture in totality. It's a Japanese thing. And I don't mean that in any racist sense either. Japan has made the greatest swords that have ever existed on earth. I totally got that part. But the aesthetic clashes and looks ridiculous. Just part of the reason I wrote it off.
I'm a huge fan of swords, sorcery, and sandals games, so I'm not knocking having a sword. I even think modern settings can pull it off well à la Ninja Gaiden, Star Wars, maybe even Mega Man Zero (but that buster, Mega Man's, is the better weapon for the series).
It's a minor gripe, I know, I know.
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Post by Xeogred on May 18, 2020 22:25:02 GMT -5
Guts' rocking the same thing basically.
If you were fighting dragons and giant robotic scorpions, wouldn't you want a Buster Sword?
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Post by toei on May 19, 2020 3:09:12 GMT -5
What's the purpose of a sword in a cyber/dieselpunk world? There's a deep seated admiration of swords that permeates Japanese culture in totality. It's a Japanese thing. And I don't mean that in any racist sense either. Japan has made the greatest swords that have ever existed on earth. Now I'm just imagining some drunk rednecks in a bar going "them Japanese, boy, I tell you... it's all swords with those people. They don't - they don't even ride trucks, can you believe that? They just wants to do the samurai thing, with the damn swords." Actually, I worked a construction job for exactly one day with a friend and his cousin, years ago. The cousin was kind of a redneck (we do have our own flavor of northern rednecks) and he brought up Final Fantasy VII at lunch, believe it or not. "I mean, I played the Final Fantasy 7, and the RPGs... the Japanese, they're not like us. Their stories just don't make sense." Good job drawing that conclusion from a couple videogames. Later on the boss told my friend to tell me not to come back the next day, probably because I asked too many questions about the pay. My friend and his cousin kept working on that house for two weeks and never got paid. Back on topic, a few random points that came to mind as I caught up on those last two pages that seemingly popped up out of nowhere: -I do hate the general aesthetics of the DS FF remakes, and whatever Four Warriors of Light was. FFIX might be 3D chibi, but it's a different 3D chibi, and it's the best PSX FF. -People keep forgetting that the Dreamcast only had half of a normal console's lifespan. Of course its library doesn't have as much depth. It wasn't "the great Sega console" some people make it out to be - the Genesis was a million times better, and I'd also place the Saturn above it. It still has some gems, and it *could* have been a great console. And it's better than the Gamecube. -It's not controversial to say that the 32X or the Sega-CD suck. But the Sega-CD actually has a solid handful or two of good to great exclusives to justify its existence, while the 32X has none. -One my controversial opinions was that pre-Symphony Castlevania is garbage. So now we fully cover both sides of that argument. -Super Mario RPG is great, obviously. I also don't like the Mario & Lugi games, and I'm not sure whether anyone here does. -About swords in a cyberpunk world... you can't demand that one small thing make sense in a world where nothing does. FFVII's world clearly doesn't play by our rules, so if they tell me that Cloud's wrists and forearms are strong enough to swing that bigass sword round, that's good enough for me. Maybe it's magic. Maybe his skinny-boy muscles are just crazy strong. Actually, one of the coolest aesthetics to me is that whole "Edo Punk" thing that mixes cyberpunk with Edo-era signifiers. Cyber City Oedo is a good example. Then again, give a guy a giant sword like that in anything live action and it instantly becomes the most ridiculous thing in the world.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 3:41:12 GMT -5
Just a few clarifications: FFIX might be 3D chibi, but it's a different 3D chibi, and it's the best PSX FF. Glad I'm not alone! That's why I was careful to say "Dreamcast's library" and not "Dreamcast." I have separate gripes with console (the laser, the noise, the awful controller), but I was specifically referring to the library here. Could it have been great? Absolutely. But many people around the internet will talk up the current DC library as if its god's gift to gaming. I never got it. I still don't. Maybe not here, but I've definitely seen people go gaga over the "tower of power" and laud the SegaCD as underrated. To me, one or two exclusives does not justify having a whole new brick taking up electric space. I can definitely suspend disbelief, but the image of it really snapped me out of it. Honestly, I also don't care for some of the weird enemies in Final Fantasy games either, but that's a different topic, too.
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Post by Ex on May 19, 2020 8:37:33 GMT -5
"them Japanese, boy, I tell you... it's all swords with those people. They don't - they don't even ride trucks, can you believe that? They just wants to do the samurai thing, and ride around on big damn swords." FTFY I agree the Genesis outclasses the Dreamcast. I would call the Genesis SEGA's greatest console. I'd have more interest in the Saturn if half of its library didn't remain untranslated Japanese entries. I think Sarge is a fan, pretty sure he's beaten all of them. I own a good many of the M&L games myself, but I've not finished any of them yet. Maybe the sword is made of some kind of super strong yet ultra lightweight metal alloy? In a cyberpunk world that could be believable.
If there's anything that kills my suspension of disbelief concerning Cloud, it's his immaculately coiffed punk rock hair. I'm supposed to believe this badass ex-SOLDIER turned mercenary runs around with hair like this?: I can only imagine other members of Avalanche getting aggravated with him, as he spends five minutes after every battle fixing his hair perfectly back into place. The real reason he carries a sword that big? He uses it as a mirror.
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Post by anayo on May 19, 2020 15:22:17 GMT -5
What is that, 美少年 or something? Is that like a feminine emo dude with long hair such as Sephiroth? FF7 never appealed to me either. I jumped from FF6 to 9 and have no interest in ever getting 7 again. Found it. (There's a TV tropes entry for it, because of course there is.)
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Post by Xeogred on May 19, 2020 18:32:32 GMT -5
Need to step up your Japanese studying, that's a common character trope in anime since the 90's. Frankly there's a lot of excellent characters too that I guess you could label as such, like Kurapika from Hunter x Hunter. Ex: Maybe Cloud is a Saiyan? You can't cut their hair! It's the back of his head that's even weirder. I'll just say I'm really glad they redesigned the characters from the remake between 2015 to 2020. 2015 Cloud is what you'd call emo.
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