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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 14:19:32 GMT -5
Maybe someday I will play through this. I've had the entire game on Steam since I got my old laptop, so... ten years. Yeesh.
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Post by Ex on May 21, 2020 16:06:04 GMT -5
Maybe someday I will play through this. I've had the entire game on Steam since I got my old laptop, so... ten years. Yeesh. I say this with full sincerity; Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition is the greatest WRPG I've ever played. And I've played a fair many of them. I plan to write a decent review when I finish it, so perhaps my final thoughts will sway your decision one way or the other. This game's about as far from a JRPG as one can get though, if that matters in a negative sense.
I'm about halfway through the Lonesome Road DLC at present. Had some epic battles against giant deathclaws atop a dilapidated elevated highway last night. Thankfully in this DLC you get a flying robot drone that helps distract enemies (until it gets knocked out of commission). That diversion allowed to unleash hell on the deathclaws via high explosive missile barrages.
Fun stuff.
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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 16:46:41 GMT -5
I have absolutely heard folks praise New Vegas, so I don't doubt that it's excellent.
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Post by Xeogred on May 21, 2020 17:31:53 GMT -5
Don't let the Bethesda developed games fool you either, heh. New Vegas' writing and world building is at least 1,000x better and they really got the spirit of Fallout, Obsidian being made up of some of the old creators and all. That's coming from someone that didn't like the -gameplay- of the original, but I would never deny it's awesome storytelling and the severe consequences in dialogue choices. And Ex , maybe you can see now how someone like myself would take to the FPS style more than the isometric stuff, gameplay wise. It's not like you even need to play it as a shooter either and I actually don't like using the companions much at all, because they ruin the immersion for me usually. I love having a dog around though (extra inventory space too haha). But yeah, moment to moment the FPS style is just simply way more "fun" to play for me, so New Vegas was the full package. While I still tend to enjoy the tighter level design experience in your Deus Ex or Dishonored's, etc, New Vegas is still probably the champion of all the modern immersive sims when it comes to story. Fallout 4's combat was actually VERY fun and awesome, I loved the gameplay. But it'll be humorous to see your reaction to this one someday Ex . It only has like one good character/companion, the story is absolute crap otherwise and them ditching dialogue choices for baby talk spoken lines, ugh what a change for the worst. Then there's Fallout 76... yeah, Fallout is freaking dead. Enjoy New Vegas while you can. But at least Obsidian's new Outer Worlds sounds like it turned out awesome, I think we've gotten a successor to Fallout now.
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Post by Ex on May 21, 2020 20:37:16 GMT -5
maybe you can see now how someone like myself would take to the FPS style more than the isometric stuff, gameplay wise The S part of the FPS doesn't matter so much to me, as the FP does. There's just no beating first person when it comes to immersion. That said, one could play through New Vegas in third person if they wished, since one press of a button changes the camera into that viewpoint. But I'm all about the first person. I will say though, isometric viewpoints have their place depending on the design of the game. The original Fallout's combat system was purely strategic, since it didn't offer real time combat. In that regard having the bird's eye view over the isometric playing area made sense. Fallout 3 and its successors allow the player to completely play in real time if they wanted (I'm sure someone's beaten these games without using VATS), so the first person view helps in that regard. I mean in the aspect of situational awareness when aiming your weapons around corners, and crouching behind cover, that sort of thing. Very true. You could play using only melee weapons and/or thrown explosives if you wanted. I wager you could get through the majority of New Vegas without fighting at all actually, just by being diplomatic and sneaky. It might even be possible to finish the entire game without fighting actually. Someone's probably done it. (Not me, I just got the Apocalypse Ain't Got Nothin' On Me level of the Lord Death perk last night.) I had one companion for a while. A female Brotherhood of Steel disciple. I ended up getting rid of her though, because she was a liability. I do appreciate the intricate level of control New Vegas gives you over your companions though. Dang I wish you'd played through Lonesome Road, it's very much in the vein. Mostly linear with predefined ambush points and such. I'd like to agree, but I think Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines has New Vegas beat in that department. That's one WRPG with some very clever writing, but New Vegas is still high quality... way above average. It's in my top 10 list of initial PS4 purchases, so I'll find out eventually. I'll always be playing catch up with you and Sarge when it comes to modern releases.
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Post by Xeogred on May 21, 2020 21:42:17 GMT -5
I'd like to agree, but I think Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines has New Vegas beat in that department. That's one WRPG with some very clever writing, but New Vegas is still high quality... way above average. Such a tall order... well I own it on Steam. Just have to get over my goth allergy and muster up the mood for it someday.
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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 21:44:40 GMT -5
It never seems to get a deep discount on GOG - lately the lowest I've seen is $10. I think I've seen it at $5, and if it happens again, I'll probably snag it.
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Post by Ex on May 21, 2020 22:25:28 GMT -5
It never seems to get a deep discount on GOG - lately the lowest I've seen is $10. I think I've seen it at $5, and if it happens again, I'll probably snag it. Eh, I believe VTMB is every bit worth as much as any brand new Zelda or Mario game costs, so even $10 is a steal. But honestly, I do not think that you personally would enjoy Bloodlines Sarge. This is an extremely dark and vile action-WRPG, that plays fast and loose with some Biblical lore. I don't even know if it's possible to be a "good guy" in VTMB. I do think that Xeogred would have a fantastic time with VTMB though. This is a decent* review I guess: *With the exceptions that there are SPOILERS in the video and the reviewer's gamma setting is crazy too high. All that said Sarge , I do think you'd get hooked on, and really enjoy, New Vegas. If you spent a few hours with it. I've been playing the 360 version without many issues, so I'll vouch for that port.
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Post by Ex on May 26, 2020 1:27:08 GMT -5
I finished the Lonesome Road DLC tonight, took me 8 hours in total. At the end of this DLC, you have the option to disable some nukes, fire nukes at the NCR, fire nukes at the Legion, or fire nukes at both. I chose to annihilate the Legion. I don't know if I'll ever be meeting Caesar in my version of the game as a result. He may just be a burnt silhouette in the bottom of a crater now. (You can still visit Dry Wells afterwards, but it's an irradiated disaster area.) This was easily my favorite of the four New Vegas DLCs. It was also the hardest gameplay in the whole game too, as enemies all scale to your level in this DLC. Since I was at max level, that meant I was fighting Level 50 Giant Deathclaws! The final boss battle of this DLC was truly epic too. Great stuff. If I were to rate all New Vegas' DLCs from best to worse: Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts > Old World Blues > Dead Money
Anyway, with all the DLCs out of the way, I'm back to playing the main game proper. I plan to dabble in a quite few sidequests before wrapping it all up though.
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Post by Sarge on May 26, 2020 19:41:37 GMT -5
Hmm, wonder how much you've got left to do? The fact that you've hit the level cap... well, that's pretty significant. Apparently this one has really gotten its hooks into you. Glad you found another awesome game to enjoy.
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