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Post by Ex on Sept 29, 2022 11:47:20 GMT -5
Wasn't aware that Capcom did much on the FDS, but looking, apparently they did an adventure game, Samurai Sword? And it also has a translation? Very interesting. Their other two games got ports to cart ( Gun.Smoke and Section Z).
Capcom only released three games on the FDS, but all three were bangers. 3 out of 3 ain't bad!
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Post by Sarge on Sept 29, 2022 12:28:45 GMT -5
Ex: True dat. I'll probably give that adventure game a shot sometime. Kazin: Yeah, the pitch on it is what scares me more than anything. It probably isn't worth me stressing over it. And as far as stuff you don't use... I mean, sometimes it's just having it that's the fun part. I rarely use my old carts anymore - EverDrives or MiSTer is more convenient - but I love having them, and still occasionally add to the collection. Although that's gotten a lot harder with the way prices are now. (And your G&W collection is awesome, by the way.)
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Post by Kazin on Sept 29, 2022 12:40:47 GMT -5
I sold pretty much all my retro stuff in 2018, just before prices shot wayyy the hell up, so me buying stuff now is primarily stuff I didn't have before - Famicom Disk System, PC Engine, Game & Watches, stuff like that. And thanks - I just bought my first Game & Watch in a long time last week - a copy of Donkey Kong Circus, broken, for $220 shipped. Which is a lot! But that game usually goes for about $500 or so in working condition, and the one I have coming at least has the box, which I'll probably sell separately to recoup some of the cost, even though the box is in pretty rough condition. Anyway, I'm hoping I can fix it, which I *usually* can with G&Ws, but I have failed a few times for reasons I've never been able to figure out (Tropical Fish might just have a bad PCB - you can see it if you turn it at an extreme angle, but replacing polarizers/reflectors as usual does absolutely zilch. I'm hoping that's not what's going on with Donkey Kong Circus, but it doesn't appear to be, at least from the eBay pictures).
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Post by Sarge on Sept 29, 2022 12:56:58 GMT -5
I've been impressed with your debugging work on those units. But yeah, sometimes you just never know what's wrong. I've got a couple of Neo Geo MVS boards that I need to try to restore, but I decided to forego all that work for now and just buy another one. (These were given to me, so no complaints, although I'd love to get one working with the NeoBiosMasta I bought.)
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Post by Kazin on Sept 29, 2022 15:50:53 GMT -5
I'm not going anywhere near collecting Neo Geo stuff. No way, no how lol. Good on ya for messing with that, though, it *is* a cool system.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 29, 2022 16:40:28 GMT -5
Getting an MVS isn't so bad - a setup with an acrylic case, battery mod, and UniBIOS only set me back $150 on the Arcade Projects forum. It's the flash cart that'll get ya. I paid a whopping $500 for a Darksoft cart. I still don't have a legit one, haha. And it's so expensive that I might consider getting one or two somewhat reasonable ones (perhaps Metal Slug X) and calling it a day. In the end, it's a system that I've always wanted, and I figure if not now, when? I should also be able to dip my toes into other arcade boards, since I'm using a Axunworks mini supergun. Wish I'd bought a TMNT board years ago...
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Post by Kazin on Sept 29, 2022 17:08:14 GMT -5
Probably all I'd really play on it would be the Metal Slug games anyway (I'm terrible - TERRIBLE - at fighting games, for example lol). Though I do have the Neo Geo Mini, which will satisfy my Metal Slug itch, I think (I can't do $650+ for Neo Geo, I wouldn't use it enough to justify it...) (I love parenthesis if you can't tell)
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Post by Sarge on Sept 29, 2022 23:25:53 GMT -5
I know you can get in cheaper if you buy one of those 161-in-1 carts. I think later revisions aren't as sketchy as the old ones. But yeah, if you have a Mini, that works, and Neo Geo emulation is very good in FB Neo and MAME. Just had to indulge in that childhood dream, haha.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Sept 30, 2022 12:41:43 GMT -5
One thing that's interesting about the FDS is that there are two Xtalsoft games available on it. This was a very influential Japanese RPG developer (they made Mugen no Shinzou) -- but the vast majority of their games stayed on Japanese computers (though, shockingly, one was ported to the C64 in America). The FDS houses their only two console titles. I think Aspic is a port of an earlier computer RPG (some databases list it separately). It's an ambitious ARPG with a top-down overworld, first-person dungeons, and side-scrolling one-on-one battles. Published by Bothtec, who later became Quest. The other Xtalsoft game is Kalin no Tsurugi, which was a FDS exclusive and is also fan-translated. It's also an ARPG but with "arena" style battles, kind of like Minelvaton Saga (a reference that probably helped no one). toei mentioned in another thread that computer JRPGs tend to have nontraditional pacing (as opposed to town-dungeon); I'd throw this one into that category as well. Most of the game feels like it's spent in the overworld. Take a look here to see how massive and sprawling the overworlds are compared to the tiny connector dungeons: strategywiki.org/wiki/Kalin_no_Tsurugi/Cave_world_LenAnyway, the game's alright for what it is. Published by Square under their "Disk Original Group" branding (amusingly shortened to "DOG").
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Post by toei on Sept 30, 2022 13:01:18 GMT -5
D.O.G. wasn't just Square, it was a joint project involving several computer game companies, including Xtalsoft, (pronounced "Crystal Soft"). I had done a little digging into them a while back, there's a post about it on this board somewhere. IIRC, Xtalsoft was bought out by T&E Soft (creators of the highly-influential Hydlide), which I believe was also part of the Disk Original Group. Square possibly bought part of the company, or else a bunch of Xtalsoft left and joined Square; either way, several members of the team that had been making RPGs there became Square's Osaka office, which made Final Fantasy Legend 3, Mystic Quest and the excellent Treasure of the Rudras. So they're definitely part of Japanese RPG history in a few different ways.
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