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Post by Ex on Apr 28, 2024 22:25:32 GMT -5
I looked at my HLTB for 7th gen shooters I've beaten since 2013. Focusing on real-time action games where you are a person shooting in either 3rd or 1st person. Omitting flight sims, shmups, and robot/mech stuff. These are the ones I rated 8/10 or better:
360
Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate Edition (360) = top 5 WRPG for me
Red Dead Redemption = the second best western game ever made (RDR2 is THE best)
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare = one of the best of the whole series
Mass Effect trilogy = the best sci-fi WRPGs I've played
Bionic Commando 2009 = way better than the clueless critics said
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood = very good even if you don't like westerns
L.A. Noire = this is a (great) detective game, but there's plenty of shooting as well
Resident Evil 5 = punch that boulder bro
Spec Ops: The Line = this one will stick with you for a while after you roll the credits
PS3
Vanquish = still the best third person shooter I've ever played
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots = it was fun exactly once, will never play again
The Last of Us = begrudgingly admit this was good
PSP
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker = crazy impressive for the hardware
The 3rd Birthday = enough has been said on HRG about this one already
Valkyria Chronicles II = it's an SRPG, but the shooting parts are real-time
Wii
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor = phenomenal rail shooter, shame upon those who ignore it
Disaster: Day of Crisis = it's an 80s action-flick and you're the star
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Post by Xeogred on Apr 28, 2024 22:41:44 GMT -5
Maybe I should get back to The 3rd Birthday now? haha. Fallout New Vegas is just straight up one of the best games ever made in my book. The Mass Effect trilogy is up there too. There goes my FPS brain though, I guess we just generally mean any shooters first or third person? I didn't realize that until now.  |
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Post by toei on Apr 28, 2024 22:46:49 GMT -5
We mean any game with guns (or preferably, where they're the main means of attack). Resident Evil would work too. I sure wasn't thinking of FPSes when I suggested "guns & swords", haha. But they fit, of course.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 28, 2024 23:43:47 GMT -5
Yeah, if you can shoot, it's fair game. 2D, 3D, I'm even fine if it's a Mega Buster.  |
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Post by Ex on Apr 29, 2024 13:38:47 GMT -5
Just a reminder this 7th gen PSP shooter exists and was fun:  Hopefully somebody else will beat it around here, and we can compare notes. |
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Post by toei on Apr 29, 2024 22:40:31 GMT -5
I like the PSP hardware, but didn't feel like got the games it deserved, by and large. Most of the games that actually originated on it were mediocre and unambitious titles that couldn't have been greenlighted for any home console. Stuff like Rengoku: The Tower of Purgatory, Blade Dancer, Valhalla Knights, Dragoneer's Aria, Driver '76... they seemed to have aimed for a 6/10 and missed. Out of all the RPGs I bought for it at the time, the only truly great one was Growlanser: Wayfarers of Time, and it's an enhanced port of a PS2 original. But as an English version, it was an exclusive. Even Ys Seven disappointed me. I was very impressed by The 3rd Birthday, as we know. So there's a few more PSP originals I want to play or try now that will hopefully be worthwhile:
Crisis Core: FFVII - Square's most high-profile PSP (then-)exclusive. Gotta give it a shot.
Final Fantasy Type-0 - This is supposed to not be great and there's a remake now that makes it severely less grindy. It's also a spin-off of FFXIII, which I'm not even interested in. I mostly want to take a look at it because of how it pushes the PSP.
Kurohyou: Rya Ga Gotoku (aka Yakuza Black Panther 1 & 2) - Obviously, talked about them before. These are the PSP games I anticipate playing the most. Yakuza, but more combat-oriented and with its own battle system.
Legend of Nayuta, The - I've been thinking a 3D action RPG might be nice lately, and it's between this and Shining Force Neo. But this is 18-20 hours, vs 40-50 for Neo, so this wins out.
Resistance: Retribution - I briefly tried it, and it seemed to have potential. The very close-up view and controls will need a bit of adjustment on my part.
Shiren the Wanderer 4 Plus - I'll probably play 3 first, but this a return to the 2D style and is most likely good, since 2 was great. This is the only one here that isn't a PSP original, but an improved port (plus it's the only one translated).
Valkyria Chronicles 2 & 3 - This is for some time in the future, after playing the first game.
EDIT - Oh yeah, I plan to play the original Metal Great Solid sometime this year. If I really like it, then eventually Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker might interest me.
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Post by Xeogred on Apr 29, 2024 23:14:58 GMT -5
Final Fantasy Type-0 - This is supposed to not be great and there's a remake now that makes it severely less grindy. It's also a spin-off of FFXIII, which I'm not even interested in. I mostly want to take a look at it because of how it pushes the PSP. It's only connection to XIII is production lineage, the 10 year some long development cycle this saga took and morphed into different things along the way. I haven't played Type-0 but I don't think there's anything that directly connects these two now.
Frankly being a Hajime Tabata game, I kind of have Type-Zero interest in it myself at this point. *drum roll* I forget he directed Crisis Core too... didn't stick around with that one long. But I'd be up for maybe giving the remake a shot someday, for dirt cheap. I just feel quite confident that everything outside of Zach and Aerith probably sucks in that game. All the Sephiroth / Gacht clones look insufferable. And this is coming from a FF7 fanboy haha...
I'll be checking out Valkyria Chronicles 2-3 someday. First game was amazing, I played the PS4 remaster.
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Post by toei on Apr 29, 2024 23:44:44 GMT -5
Final Fantasy Type-0 - This is supposed to not be great and there's a remake now that makes it severely less grindy. It's also a spin-off of FFXIII, which I'm not even interested in. I mostly want to take a look at it because of how it pushes the PSP. It's only connection to XIII is production lineage, the 10 year some long development cycle this saga took and morphed into different things along the way. I haven't played Type-0 but I don't think there's anything that directly connects these two now.
Frankly being a Hajime Tabata game, I kind of have Type-Zero interest in it myself at this point. *drum roll* I forget he directed Crisis Core too... didn't stick around with that one long. But I'd be up for maybe giving the remake a shot someday, for dirt cheap. I just feel quite confident that everything outside of Zach and Aerith probably sucks in that game. All the Sephiroth / Gacht clones look insufferable. And this is coming from a FF7 fanboy haha...
I'll be checking out Valkyria Chronicles 2-3 someday. First game was amazing, I played the PS4 remaster.
Nah, it's quite connected. I looked into a while back. People say the late game makes no sense unless you're deeply familiar with FFXIII lore or read the whole (supposedly book-length, maybe that's exaggerated) in-game compendium, because it takes place in the same world and uses some of the same concepts, which it doesn't bother to explain in the main game. It was literally supposed to be "FFXIII: Agito", and it's still connected even if they changed the title. As for Valkyria Chronicles, all the reviewers claimed 4 on the PS4 was the best entry to date, for what it's worth. It's nice that it came back to consoles after being relegated to portables for half its entries, in either case. |
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Post by Sarge on Apr 30, 2024 9:06:12 GMT -5
I like the PSP, too, but tend to agree that it never quite hit the target for many of its games. Still, the system gave us Ys Seven and Peace Walker, so I can't be mad about that. And The 3rd Birthday.
The Legend of Nayuta is one on my list - I wouldn't be playing on PSP, but the Switch port, but by and large I believe it's the same game.
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Post by Ex on Apr 30, 2024 9:29:23 GMT -5
>Crisis Core: FFVII I thought this one was quite good, with a great plot in a JRPG (rare thing in my experience), and one of the very best endings I've seen in any video game (avoid spoilers). It helps to have beaten FF7 before this of course. My only complaint was the sidequests were repetitive boring dreck. The main campaign is plenty fun. >Final Fantasy Type-0 I put about a dozen hours into this. Amazing graphically for its platform. Awful plot and turd writing, with overtly grindy-centric game design, to the point I stopped having fun with it. The PS4 updated version with higher res and less grind may make it bearable. Type-0 is definitely technically impressive for its hardware, I'll give it that. >The Legend of Nayuta I highly enjoyed this. It baffles me why so many gamers I know that normally enjoy action-JRPGs, just pretend this game doesn't exist. After beating the PSP version, I've since bought the Switch version, for a future replay. ( gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/654985-nayuta-no-kiseki/reviews/164698 ) >Resistance: Retribution I wouldn't say it's "amazing", but definitely a solid 7/10 or maybe 8/10, depending on the player. Does some interesting game design ideas for a PSP game, especially with the reticle system. Nice graphics and plenty of enjoyable shooting. >Valkyria Chronicles 2 & 3 Yeah I wouldn't recommend playing these until you've done VC1. VC2 you might not like, because it's got some goofy characters and kind of a high school/college setting. VC3 bucks all of that and gets serious, with moody outcast characters in a forlorn scenario. I've beaten VC1 (masterpiece) and VC2 (very good). I got about halfway through VC3 and burnt out, as it's quite long. I still intend to go back and finish VC3 eventually. I've got VC4 on PS4, but not played it yet. Would like to finish VC3 first. All in all I'd put the Valkyria Chronicles series in the A tier of SRPGs. >Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker might interest me It's another technical masterpiece for PSP, but the control scheme is... it will take some getting used to. Don't forget about the Metal Gear AC!D games on PSP. Both are proper Metal Gear games, with tactical stealth real-time movement, but the battle system is card based. But it's not slow boring card battles, rather fast paced card battles with plenty of strategy. Really fun, really unique games, that are criminally ignored by "Metal Gear fans" by and large. I beat both and had good times. |
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