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Post by Ex on Oct 6, 2022 13:47:23 GMT -5
Yep, I agree, very good game. I imported a copy myself with Ex 's recommendation. And of course I really dug Trace Memory, so I knew I'd have a good time. Sarge Aside from Last Window, do you have any interesting in playing CiNG's Again?
It was a solid 7/10 for me. Best things about were the time travel puzzle solving, and captivating whodunnit plot that keeps you guessing till the end. Also enjoyed the noir motif and a moody OST. The credits say Rika Suzuki* was scenario supervisor for Again, so she did have some input into it. *She was also involved in Dragon Quest, Dragon Quest III, and Dragon Quest IV as "assisted by", whatever that means.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 6, 2022 17:35:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm guessing so. I never heard great things about Again, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy it. I mean, I played through a couple of Jake Hunter games, which are just solid 7-7.5/10 material.
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Post by toei on Oct 6, 2022 19:05:11 GMT -5
Ex Dragon Quest II also. She's credited as an Assistant on all the NES games. That's news to me, especially since there was an discussion between Yuji Horii and Rika Suzuki I posted here once, published in a Japanese magazine in the '80s, and it didn't acknowledge her having any involvement in Dragon Quest. It was framed as a Yuji Horii of Portopia/Dragon Quest fame, and Rika Suzuki of Riverhill Soft fame. Either it didn't come up because they were discussing adventure games, or maybe it's just a different Rika Suzuki. The other people listed as Assistants for those games, and there's always a few, are all Chunsoft employees. One of them went on to direct Shiren the Wanderer. Rika Suzuki already led Riverhill Soft by that time, so unless she just kind of helped out with some of the writing - NPC dialogue or something - I don't see what she would have worked on DQ for. And there's usually a Scenario Assistant listed separately.
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Post by Ex on Oct 6, 2022 20:07:45 GMT -5
unless she just kind of helped out with some of the writing - NPC dialogue or something That was my assumption as well.
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Post by Ex on Oct 7, 2022 1:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Oct 7, 2022 7:53:07 GMT -5
Yeah I'll be getting that but I'm in no huge rush to play it having already finished vanilla Chaos;Head on PC and Chaos;Child on Vita.
There's some controversy as I guess Steam isn't allowing Chaos;Head Noah. Apparently it has some pretty brutal segments. Even the original was kinda messed up in parts.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Oct 7, 2022 9:08:47 GMT -5
I await my ban for double-posting, but I picked up my first Jake Hunter (Jinguuji Saburou) game -- Ghost of the Dusk on 3DS.
I assume these Jake Hunter games can be played independently? There are like 10,000 entries in the series and most are not localized.
The two DS games are now too rare/expensive for my tastes. No interest unless I fall madly in love with this 3DS entry.
Was surprised to see there's a 2018 localized entry called Alternate Jake Hunter: Daedalus - The Awakening of Golden Jazz. Looks like it quickly faded into obscurity and reception is not good.
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Post by Ex on Oct 7, 2022 10:30:31 GMT -5
I await my ban for double-posting The mods here are not such douches. I'd have to retroactively ban myself for that if so. >first Jake Hunter (Jinguuji Saburou) game -- Ghost of the Dusk on 3DS Sarge has beaten that one. I own it, but have not played it yet. >I assume these Jake Hunter games can be played independently? Yes, from what I've read the games are self-contained. >The two DS games are now too rare/expensive for my tastes The "two DS games" are actually the same game; Tantei Jingūji Saburō DS: Inishie no Kioku. Its first localization was as Jake Hunter: Detective Chronicles, but Aksys Games did an abysmal job of localizing it. Later on, Aksys re-released the game as Jake Hunter Detective Story: Memories of the Past, and in doing so, righted their original localization wrongs. So, if you are going to play the DS Jake Hunter, make sure it's the Memories of the Past version.
I have only beaten one Jake Hunter thus far, and it was Jake Hunter Detective Story: Memories of the Past. Here's my GameFAQs review of it: When it comes to adventure games, the DS will always be remembered for three main franchises; Ace Attorney, Professor Layton, and anything developed by CiNG. Beyond that, the DS still has many other adventure games to offer, but the vast majority of those are paltry to say the least (unless you really enjoy hidden object games). However, there are still a few decent outliers, such as "Unsolved Crimes", "Ghost Trick", "999", and yes; Jake Hunter Detective Story: Memories of the Past. Jake Hunter actually comes from a long line of Japanese adventure games, as of this date a thirty year old franchise. But I'm not about to cover all that history. One thing you should know first and foremost is that Jake Hunter: Memories of the Past is a "visual novel", not really an adventure game. Forget interactive puzzles or tangible gameplay, rather you will spend the entirety of your time reading hundreds of dialogue boxes endlessly, rather than actively playing any kind of actual game. If you don't enjoy constantly reading, and would rather wrap your head around puzzles, Jake Hunter is not what you're looking for. The only real interactivity on offer is selecting preordained menu options to advance text, and occasionally making Jake smoke cigarettes. Yes, there's a button just for that. On the other hand, if you're looking for a mature, believable, and serious experience the likes of which is extremely rare on the DS (outside Hotel Dusk, Last Window, and Broken Sword)... good news, you'll find that here. You won't find Jake Hunter's plot awash with goofy antics and frivolous banter such as the Ace Attorney games are so fond of, and you won't receive a derpy ending born of deus ex machina as Professor Layton games are so eager to do. No, Jake Hunter's world is very down to earth, with conversations and people entirely grounded in realism. That said, don't expect much from the presentation. Memory of the Past's graphics and audio are spartan, very minimalist and certainly nothing that pushes the DS' capability in the slightest. There are some enjoyable animated cutscenes here and there, but your eyes and ears won't be blown away by what's on offer. It's likely you'll find your thumb sore from advancing text boxes incessantly, and maybe a little eyestrain from a font that could have benefited from being larger. But that's a good pain both, because it means you're hooked on reading the stories. (Although I doubt you'll be hooked on the optional "Unleashed" stories, which I found so trite I'm not bothering explaining them.) Indeed, ultimately a visual novel lives or dies based on the quality of its writing. And thankfully, Jake Hunter Detective Story: Memories of the Past, gets this crucial part right. If you're a fan of hard boiled detective stories, with all the noir tropes that entails, you're in for a good time. There's six primary cases here, a good 10 hours or so of reading at least. Truly if you enjoy Mike Hammer you should adore Jake Hunter. (The similarities border on the suspicious, truly.) So if you're in the mood for this sort of thing, kick back in a recliner in a dimly lit corner, and have yourself a nice long read. Enjoy being a fly on the wall to the experiences of Mr. Hunter as he fights crooks, solves mysteries, smokes too many cigarettes, and flirts with all the lovely dames. But if you'd rather actively do these things yourself, you're better off with L.A. Noire rather than this. Ex's rating: 7/10 Ex's time to beat: 10h 30mPS If you choose to buy this game, make sure you get "Jake Hunter Detective Story: Memories of the Past". Do not buy "Jake Hunter: Detective Chronicles". Trust me on this one dear reader. I don't know anything about that one. It does look different than standard Jake Hunter though, based on screenshots anyway.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 7, 2022 11:23:04 GMT -5
It's good, I gave it a 7.5/10. It's not as good as the stronger Ace Attorney games, but I still enjoyed my time with it.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Oct 7, 2022 12:33:29 GMT -5
In terms of genre, I just love that hardboiled detective stuff in general. Partly why I enjoy Portopia so much. Gonna try to get to the first two J.B. Harold games when I have a chance too.
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