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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2023 12:02:32 GMT -5
a (relatively) inexpensive piece of hardware that can competently run retro games, indie games, VNs, and first-party Nintendo titles It should be pointed out that while Nintendo hardware is generally cheaper than Sony's, Nintendo's first party games remain perpetually expensive, whereas Sony's first party games quickly become deeply discounted. Overall I think it costs a lot more to be a first party consumer of Nintendo than Sony. |
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Post by Sarge on Jan 24, 2023 12:13:40 GMT -5
They do go on sale, though, just not as deep of discounts. They generally bottom out around $40.
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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2023 12:22:49 GMT -5
$40 isn't much of a sale though, compared to first party Sony games routinely hitting $15-20 after the first year.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 24, 2023 12:39:09 GMT -5
True. Got to put that on supply and demand, Nintendo's stuff consistently sells even at the higher prices. I think Sony/Microsoft fans tend to move on a lot quicker from the big releases, for whatever reason.
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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2023 12:48:40 GMT -5
Granted I don't blame Nintendo. If they can sell their first party games perpetually at $40-60, they absolutely should. I'm just saying that Nintendo's hardware being cheaper, is nullified by their software being more expensive. I won't argue that Nintendo's hardware isn't easier to come by though, and that's a good thing. It is easier to find Nintendo hardware IRL and online more readily.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 24, 2023 13:07:49 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a good point, too. There's definitely a Switch tax with games on there, just from its massive popularity. It's why I generally try to get my games from other sources if available, especially for digital purchases. GOG/Steam are far more preferable in terms of pricing.
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Post by Moulinoski on Jan 24, 2023 15:41:09 GMT -5
Granted I don't blame Nintendo. If they can sell their first party games perpetually at $40-60, they absolutely should. I'm just saying that Nintendo's hardware being cheaper, is nullified by their software being more expensive. I won't argue that Nintendo's hardware isn't easier to come by though, and that's a good thing. It is easier to find Nintendo hardware IRL and online more readily. I’ve found myself just buying their Zelda, core Mario, and core Pokémon games. Oh, and Smash Bros. Although this is relatively new. Back in the day before PC gaming, if I bought a game it was going to be for a Nintendo console because that’s what I tended to get. Eventually I started getting PlayStations after they were several years old. Nowadays I buy most third party games for PC and just buy Nintendo for Zelda, Mario, and Pokémon (and like I said, I’m selective about the Mario and Pokémon games). Sometimes I’ll buy something else from their first party lineup like Xenoblade on 3DS but I’ve even stopped doing that as of late, choosing to focus mostly on those main three as “must buys” (and even then, I have dropped Pokémon as a must buy before and I only played Shield a while after the fact only to find that I actually liked it). Even the Switch being portable doesn’t really make or break anything for me now that I have a Steam Deck and an RG353V for my non-Nintendo or retro wants. |
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Post by anayo on Apr 26, 2023 20:59:35 GMT -5
Lately I have been about the next-generation Nintendo Switch. I believe a "super switch" will probably be enough for Nintendo to stay in the hardware business for another generation. Something unusual like the Wii or DS is probably not their next move. This isn't like the days of the Gamecube or the Wii U when Nintendo needed to pivot away from an approach that wasn't working. The Switch has been selling really well, and they probably just want more of that. I have said earlier that I don't feel there's much room for improvement with the Switch. Personally, I think the Switch is close to perfect. The only things I want addressed wouldn't be solved by upgrading the Switch hardware - such as faulty joy cons (which are detachable), or the lack of games I want, such as an F-Zero GX port (which might come out later). However, I now see the Switch has one serious problem: really good Switch games have to be built from the ground up for the Switch. This is impossible for me to ignore after completing Metroid Prime Remastered - a first party game tailor-made for Switch hardware which looks and plays like a dream - followed by A Hat in Time - a crunchy, jittery 30 fps port with hitches, stutters, and graphics like a PC game with the visuals set to "low". I do not believe A Hat in Time transcends the capabilities of the Switch. Rather, I think a superb version of A Hat in Time on Switch would call for developers to custom tailor their game to the Switch, and the time and resources to do this just aren't forthcoming. It was probably a PS4 game first and a Switch game second. This creates the false impression that the Switch is weak or aging poorly. What if instead of Nvidia's ARM-based Tegra architecture, the next Switch used something like AMD's mobile Ryzen Z1? That may as well be the brain of a PS5, XBOX Series, or PC. I'm not saying that because it's more powerful, what I'm wondering if that kind of architectural uniformity would decrease the time and money needed to re-engineer the Switch versions of third party multiplatform games, and making good experiences on Switch more readily available outside of Nintendo's first party efforts. |
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Post by Ex on Apr 27, 2023 0:07:40 GMT -5
What if instead of Nvidia's ARM-based Tegra architecture, the next Switch used something like AMD's mobile Ryzen Z1? That may as well be the brain of a PS5, XBOX Series, or PC. It will be a hybrid handheld/console just as before. It will be retro-compatible with the original Switch games. It will focus on cloud gaming in a big way. It will use a Tegra based SoC. It won't sell anything near what the Switch sold. Edit: That said there is an upcoming handheld using a Ryzen chipset: www.timeextension.com/news/2023/04/the-aya-neo-2s-will-rock-amds-new-ryzen-chipset |
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Post by anayo on May 2, 2023 14:33:45 GMT -5
What if instead of Nvidia's ARM-based Tegra architecture, the next Switch used something like AMD's mobile Ryzen Z1? That may as well be the brain of a PS5, XBOX Series, or PC. It will be a hybrid handheld/console just as before. It will be retro-compatible with the original Switch games. It will focus on cloud gaming in a big way. It will use a Tegra based SoC. It won't sell anything near what the Switch sold. You're probably right about a Tegra-based SoC because the "Super Switch" was likely set in motion years ago, and Ryzen-based Steam Deck handhelds weren't really a thing until quite recently. Yeah, that Ryzen Z1 chip I was talking about was specifically designed for handheld PC gaming, because there are so many handheld gaming PCs hitting the market now. Basically my whole idea in my last post was "what if Nintendo made a Ryzen-based Steam Deck." |
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