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Post by anayo on Jun 26, 2021 15:24:25 GMT -5
anayo I just remembered another "monsters in the castle" MS-DOS FPS from the '90s, that you might like: I've not played it myself (yet), but I remember @tsumuri liked this one quite a bit. You know, before he died from playing games non-stop and not even bothering to eat or sleep. Oh snap, I remember Tsumuri playing this! You're right, I really like the "monsters in the castle" genre and Chasm looks exactly like my jam. For some reason though it's like $30 loose on eBay. I thought 90's PC games were supposed to be cheap? Oh well, I'll play it somehow. |
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Post by Ex on Jun 26, 2021 16:22:49 GMT -5
Oh well, I'll play it somehow. PM incoming. |
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Post by Sarge on Jun 28, 2021 23:40:06 GMT -5
Took a little palate cleanser tonight with an NES game - TMNT III: The Manhattan Project. Great game, although I'm not entirely sure what I'd rate it these days. It absolutely improves on TMNT II: The Arcade Game - lots of fun set pieces and enemies have a lot less hit invincibility period. At the same time, it's not terribly deep, and can get quite repetitive single-player like most brawlers. And this one is longer than most - I clocked in a final time of 1h45m, although I had to burn two continues which added to the time. But even the longplays on YouTube are around 1h15m. I'm waffling between a 7.5 and an 8/10... in the end, I think I'll go with the 7.5, as much as it pains me to do so. As good as it is, the Technos stuff on NES still very much outclasses this, but you can't deny how fantastic the game looks and plays.
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Post by Xeogred on Jun 29, 2021 7:43:24 GMT -5
I grew up on that one and played it with my grandpa a lot actually. Safe to say nostalgia might put it over all the other TMNT beat em' ups for me. It definitely somewhat ruined TMNT II for me. That one gets all the love but TMNT III is just clearly better in my book.
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Post by Ex on Jun 29, 2021 9:02:07 GMT -5
With TMNT3 on NES, I find it to be more technically impressive than it is fun. I agree it's too long for what it is, I've never actually beaten it due to running out of steam with it. I prefer for an 8/16-bit beat 'em up to be less than an hour long. TMNT3 does play well, looks great, and pulls off some interesting programmatic feats given the hardware. Also playing it via co-op would surely be funner than solo. I'd be willing to give that a try. even the longplays on YouTube are around 1h15m Not surprised the longplay ended up 30 minutes shorter than your time, given most longplays are tool-assisted and follow the absolute optimal paths to finishing the game. I don't find longplays to be indicative of a normal player going though a game, but they are good to get an idea of what all to expect while playing said game. |
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Post by Sarge on Jun 29, 2021 14:13:59 GMT -5
That's why I like NintendoComplete's channel, he plays them all legit, no assists or anything. And he comes in at... 1h05m? Geez, I gotta up my game!
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Post by Ex on Jun 29, 2021 15:33:03 GMT -5
And he comes in at... 1h05m? He probably beat the game dozens of times as a kid though. |
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Post by Sarge on Jun 29, 2021 15:46:09 GMT -5
Yeah, very likely. Dude is clearly quite skilled at a lot of these games, though - he's got a ton of videos, and they're all high-level play.
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Post by Ex on Jun 29, 2021 15:52:41 GMT -5
they're all high-level play I'm of the mind anyone can accomplish that, if they are willing to invest the non-trivial amount of life hours into it. |
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Post by Sarge on Jun 29, 2021 16:07:28 GMT -5
I think with some games, it probably wouldn't take me terribly long to do it for older games like this. I'm not far off of optimal "normal" play for a lot of my favorites. I don't know that just anyone can accomplish it, though, at least with some games and genres. Some people simply don't have the dexterity or reaction times needed even for games that are largely predictable in nature. It's a little like sports, I suppose. Yes, anyone can get good at shooting a basketball, but at some point innate talent will put someone into a higher tier just because their skill ceiling is higher.
That being said, for a lot of life activities, the gap between raw talent + work and average talent + work isn't as great as you'd imagine, and as you seem to be indicating, many times what people see as "talent" is the result of really, really hard work and dedication.
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