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Post by anayo on Nov 1, 2018 18:13:05 GMT -5
So, you can play a game, beat it, and mark it off your list. Or you can play it over and over again and get crazy good at it. Maybe the goal is to speed run it, or to compete with others if the game is multiplayer, or just because you love the game so much you want to play it again and again. Let's talk about those.
Past achievements:
As a teenager I got pretty good at NiGHTS into Dreams. I wanted to master all the stages and shatter the high scores, but I only really got crazy good at the first few. I was in the 500,000 point ballpark on stage one.
Teenage me would also try to beat my scores at Virtua Cop 2. I could just play that over and over. Weirdly enough, I'd get higher scores if I played with a controller. I always felt like light guns were more to make you feel "cool" than to actually improve your performance.
In my early 20's I played Metal Slug 2 maybe a hundred times. I could never beat it without a game over, but I got respectable at beating the first 3 or 4 stages with all my prisoners in tow.
Today I can slay bodies at Dr. Robotnic's Mean Bean Machine. When I play that, I consider one death grounds for starting over. I only consider the game beaten if I did it on one life.
Future achievements?:
I'd really like to master a Mega Man game. Like just effortless breeze through it on one life. It would take a lot of time, though.
I still know the layout of 007 Goldeneye by heart. I actually played that game so much I got sick of it as a kid. My fondness for it came back with a vengeance, though. I've always kind of wished I could get good enough to beat it on 00 Agent in one sitting. Probably not speed run quality (which would be in the 1:30:00 ballpark). Maybe within 3 hours I guess. But I'm too preoccupied trying to experience all the retro games I've never played.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 1, 2018 21:00:36 GMT -5
 I got this in Mega Man 10 on the 360/XBL. I am pretty good at traditional Mega Man games. Other feats: - Got the PS3/PS4 Platinum for Resident Evil REmake, which includes trophies like speedrunning, knife only run, no save ribbon run, invisible enemies mode run, etc. - Got the PS3 Platinum for Devil May Cry 3, so basically I 100%'d this game from top to bottom... nuff' said. - Got the Platinum for Demon's Souls (and others in the series). - Call of Duty 4, I got all achievements on the 360 and hit max prestige (10 times level 55) and had a few gold guns. Unlocking more gold guns was literally all that was left to do. Played this game consistently for like two years back in the day. - RE4 beat Perfectionist mode back in the day on the Cube. - Ninja Gaiden (Xbox) beat Hard mode back in the day, not sure about Very Hard. - Halo beat Legendary solo. - FEAR beat Extreme on the 360, I thought it was insane (you die in like two hits, have to slow mo every single encounter, very scary). - Can get like ~52 minutes on Super Metroid speedruns, decent for a casual compared to the pros here I guess (think WR's are like 40, so I have no idea how to shave off 10 plus minutes haha) - Perfect Dark beat Perfect Agent and all extras. Beat Goldeneye and 00 Agent mode too. - Link to the Past and Super Metroid I could probably draw the entire set of maps for off the top of my head. - Doom I am extremely good at too and have frequently beaten 1-2 on Ultra Violence across various platforms, which are some of my rarest trophies compared to others apparently. Well, I think the official vanilla Doom releases are easy on UV so I guess that explains something. Some of the fan made megawads I've been playing for several years now are much harder. Been a fan for like 25 years, so like Mega Man, Doom is just part of my DNA now. Probably tons more if they come to mind. Hard to sum up 25+ years of gaming. Not to be too up on the high horse but I've always been way above average in gaming throughout the years and across various circles of friends. But, no denying some kids out there thesedays in the competitive scene are a new breed and put me to shame. Online FPS's are a scary thing nowadays. Also I usually get spanked pretty hard in fighting games online, but I can beat up my local friends pretty good so that's when I retire hehe.
Oh yeah, I think I 1CC'd Ikaruga back on the 360/XBL. But I tried playing some of it again last year on Steam and have lost all knowledge of it, haha. In general, I feel like I retain most of the skill for games I loved as a kid and can still rock out with today (like Super Ghouls n' Ghosts or something). But shmups and extreme pattern based memorization can be a different beast for sure.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Nov 1, 2018 21:09:00 GMT -5
I generally sucks balls at video games. Hence the turn-based JRPG obsession. I can beat Contra and Metal Slug without losing a life. Probably can do the same for Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World. And the old school Zelda games (okay, not the second one). If Activision patches were still a thing I would have a bunch of 'em! www.atariage.com/2600/archives/activision_patches.html |
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Post by Ex on Nov 1, 2018 22:40:53 GMT -5
Not to knock anyone who's into this kind of thing, but this sort of mastering a game requires an obsessiveness I simply don't harbor. I get bored quickly replaying games I've already beaten, especially if its done in rapid succession. I can't think of any purposeful speed runs or super high scores from my gaming history. I'm sure I pulled stuff like that off occasionally, when I was much younger with less games to choose from. I do recall as a teenager getting extremely good at Street Fighter II Turbo and Mortal Kombat 2 on SNES. Good enough to beat both games on the hardest difficulty without ever losing. I also recall beating Bionic Commando and Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA version) on one life before I ever hit puberty.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 1, 2018 23:00:19 GMT -5
I can attest to Ex 's SFII skills. He's quite good. Y'all know my usual one, but I'll run a few down. Most of my biggest accomplishments have been on NES, where I can practice a lot more on shorter games, and I'm more likely to revisit them anyway. - Contra. Duh. Weirdly, it's my "relaxation" game, one I bust out because I find it fairly easy now. I finally got that no-death run, and did it three more times before finally getting video evidence.
- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Very difficult for me to beat unless I'm on a CRT; the best way is where you can react instead of anticipate, although clearly there are ways to do that, too. Blindfolded runs prove that. My last run, I think I might have gone without a knockdown, or maybe just one. Some better-placed knockdowns on Tyson should have seen me win in Round 2.
- Holy Diver. Listen, y'all, this game is legit tough. More than NES hard. It seems doable early on, but man, the kid gloves come off around Stage 3 and 4.
- Battletoads. The other holy grail for the longest, I finally put in the practice and put this puppy down. I don't play it often enough, so I probably wouldn't be able to beat it right now.
- Ninja Gaiden III. So, the problem with the US version is the limited continues. I think I might have used one continue in my winning run, and even that was some really bad luck.
- Contra: Hard Corps & Contra III. Gonna lump these two together; getting legit runs of HC and Hard Mode Contra III also took care of a bucket list item.
- Urban Reign. Still the hardest freaking brawler (that's not a quarter muncher) I've ever played. BRUTAL difficulty.
I'm sure there are others, but darn if I can remember. But much like Ex , I don't always look to replay games over and over to the point of mastery, although the shared mechanics of Street Fighter make them games I'm willing to play through many, many times. |
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Post by Ex on Nov 1, 2018 23:07:13 GMT -5
Urban Reign. Still the hardest freaking brawler (that's not a quarter muncher) I've ever played. BRUTAL difficulty. Oh man, how could I have forgotten about that.  Yeah, beating that brawler was something else. A lot of people swear that God Hand is impossibly hard. After having beaten Urban Reign and God Hand back to back... yeah those folks better just stick with God Hand. But at least God Hand is fun in a non-masochistic way. |
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Post by anayo on Nov 2, 2018 5:17:22 GMT -5
I got this in Mega Man 10 on the 360/XBL. I am pretty good at traditional Mega Man games.
YES. I want to do this on that one Mega Man game we can talk about on October 2, 2028. I own this and I'm slated to play it sometime in the next decade. Every source I've read has warned me of its imposing difficulty. Have you ever done it one sitting? I've beaten Goldeneye on 00 Agent before (over the span of a week or so) but got hung up on the two bonus stages... Yes, that absolutely counts. I'm slated to play Contra in 2019. I won't make myself beat it on one life, but I'm hoping to beat it without using the Contra Code. Sarge's high appraisal of your SFII skills makes me curious to see it for myself. I've entertained the idea of using emulators on PC for members of HRG to play multiplayer retro games together over the Internet, so maybe that's worth looking into. WHAT. I've watched a speed run of this before. It made me feel really conflicted cause the game looks so cool, but the frustration level would make me want to jump out a window. |
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Post by Ex on Nov 2, 2018 9:36:36 GMT -5
I've entertained the idea of using emulators on PC for members of HRG to play multiplayer retro games together over the Internet I've thought about this too. It would be cool to play some multiplayer stuff online with you guys. I'm not so sure I'm keen on fighting games though, simply because potential lag would be highly detrimental. He's not called "Lord of Platformers" for nothing. |
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Nov 2, 2018 11:39:24 GMT -5
Not to knock anyone who's into this kind of thing, but this sort of mastering a game requires an obsessiveness I simply don't harbor. I get bored quickly replaying games I've already beaten, especially if its done in rapid succession. Oh, I agree with this. I listed a few games I can beat on a single life, but my playthroughs would still be super-sloppy compared to a speedrunner or whatever. I don't find video game "skill" (my own or someone else's) a very interesting topic, generally speaking. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 12:50:35 GMT -5
Well, I usually like to play games on the highest difficulty setting because that often requires the player to become more accustomed with how the game works than lower difficulty levels do. That said, I'm not particularly good at video games (and pretty terrible at platformers, rhythm games and others) but I can be very patient as long as a game feels hard but fair.
I believe that mastering a skill-based game implies I could go back to it at any given moment and beat it with ease. Well, to be honest, no such game comes to mind.
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Yeah, beating that brawler was something else. A lot of people swear that God Hand is impossibly hard. After having beaten Urban Reign and God Hand back to back... yeah those folks better just stick with God Hand. But at least God Hand is fun in a non-masochistic way.