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Post by Xeogred on May 20, 2020 19:55:44 GMT -5
So you're telling me you want Xabungle? But yeah that's a good distinction and where Ex might draw the line. Armored Core seems like a bit of a midpoint between the two, heh. Guess I'll just always wish I could find more retro anime fans among retro gaming fans. The Sunrise 80's run of mecha shows is a gold mine! The Dragon Quest composer scored Ideon!
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Post by Ex on May 20, 2020 21:12:21 GMT -5
I prefer for mechs to have hunka clunka weight to them. In AC I always make big weighty mechs, and in Front Mission I favor large heavy frames, western mech games tend to skew this way by default. Anime skinny mechs that jump around like they're in zero gravity swinging laser swords aren't as cool to me.
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Post by Xeogred on May 20, 2020 21:18:46 GMT -5
If there's one mecha anime I'd say you should give a shot, it would be Votoms. And for anyone here who digs Trek, I bet Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be a fun experience too.
That thing looks like it's got wheels in the middle/chest area and could maybe transform. A+ design.
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Post by Ex on May 20, 2020 21:44:37 GMT -5
If there's one mecha anime I'd say you should give a shot, it would be Votoms. I think you're right. It's been on my watch list forever. I've got the entire saga ready to watch. Just gotta prioritize it.
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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 14:13:32 GMT -5
Not sure if I hit this one before, but here's an unpopular opinion: TMNT: Turtles in Time is overrated. I see so many places describe it as the best beat-'em-up on SNES, and it shows up on a ton of all-time lists. I'll be the first to say it's a great game, but it's not a 10/10 game in my book.
Also, TMNT III: The Manhattan Project rocks, and is easily better than its prequel.
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Post by toei on May 21, 2020 16:18:15 GMT -5
Sarge Turtles in Time is not the best beat-'em-up of all time, but what's better on the SNES, actually? I'd even say it improves on the arcade version. For some reason both the arcade original and its prequel lack a proper feel of impact when you hit your enemies, which the SNES port finally gets right. Manhattan Project kinda sucks, btw. It's only okay for a NES beat-'em-up, which isn't saying much.
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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 16:42:31 GMT -5
Eh, I like how TMNT III plays a lot, so we can disagree on that one.
I'd put Final Fight 3 above it, as well as The Ninja Warriors. Probably King of Dragons as well, although it's close. You won't get any argument from me that it's near the top on the system.
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Post by toei on May 21, 2020 16:52:08 GMT -5
Eh, I like how TMNT III plays a lot, so we can disagree on that one. I'd put Final Fight 3 above it, as well as The Ninja Warriors. Probably King of Dragons as well, although it's close. You won't get any argument from me that it's near the top on the system. I'm kind of shocked by your picks. King of Dragons straight up sucks. It's worse than Knights of the Round, which itself is one of Capcom's weaker entries. The Ninja Warriors isn't as bad, just mediocre. The switch to single-plane limits the gameplay further than the genre can stand. I never understood what supposedly puts it above all the other single-plane beat-'em-ups no one seems to like. And Final Fight 3... well, it's a lot better than 2, but it's far, far too easy. Every enemy in the game is just a punching bag with legs, which makes the game boring in the long run. They literally almost never attack you. Come to think of it, there are a few SNES beat-'em-ups I like a lot besides TMNT - Combatribes is brutal and chunky in that Technos way, and it's also superior to the arcade version, IMO, which is just not properly balanced; Super Double Dragon has its flaws and is kinda slow, but it's still legit DD; and Kunio-tachi no Banka is really solid. Batman Returns is good too. Sonic Blastman 2 is another really good exclusive, and easily the most improved BEU sequel I've ever played, as the first was horrible.
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Post by Xeogred on May 21, 2020 17:38:41 GMT -5
Maybe beat em' ups are one of the more contentious genres around here for us at HRG, haha.
Streets of Rage 2-3 for me just absolutely slays literally everything on the SNES in that genre.
But that said yeah, maybe Turtles in Time is my favorite beat em' up on the SNES, yet TMNT III: The Manhattan Project has probably always been my favorite TMNT game. There's some strong nostalgia there though, I owned it, and co-oped it with my grandpa a lot, we beat it all the time! I honestly think TMNT II / the arcade game is pretty forgettable in comparison. Never been huge on that one. TMNT III has such a cool scenario and levels.
I don't think I hate the first NES game either. I've been meaning to hit that one up again someday, I think I beat it back in the day when emulation was kind of new. Save states of course... haha.
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Post by Sarge on May 21, 2020 18:34:01 GMT -5
toei: I like KotR as well. I'd probably put it and KotD at about an 8/10, along with TMNT IV. If I had to pick a Capcom brawler I've fallen out of love with, it's Captain Commando, but maybe that's because I was using Baby the last time I played. I've always thought Final Fight was a touch too basic. For me, it's kind of the SMB of brawlers - huge influential to the genre, but not my favorite these days. I find Final Fight 2 rather bland as well. Ninja Warriors just feels right to me. And the movesets are more diverse than most single-plane brawlers. I'm not inherently against single-plane fighters as long as they feel good to play. I also dig X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse and War of the Gems, although they have a tad more platforming than other side-scrollers. You can always jack up the difficulty in FF3. I'm pretty sure that's what I did the last time I played. I still haven't really given Combatribes a concerted go, but I definitely like Super/Return of Double Dragon (enough so that I imported the latter). I also haven't put a lot of time into that Kunio game, but I should. I like Batman Returns as well, but it does tend to get repetitive at times, and I agree with Sonic Blast Man 2 - definitely a massive step up over the thoroughly blah first game. Xeogred: While I don't care much for SoR3, at least in its US form, SoR2 is nearly the perfect beat-'em-up in my eyes. Honestly, I'm surprised at how many beat-'em-ups I like on NES, and how I think many of them are better than a lot of 16-bit games. Mighty Final Fight is still one of my favorites, and just about anything Technos did on the system rocks.
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