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Post by toei on Apr 12, 2021 1:01:58 GMT -5
Title is self-explanatory. Feel free to post playthroughs, etc.
I tend to move on to other games when I finish one, so I rarely reach "expert" level in any game. What I'm best at, though, is Super Buster Bros' Survival Mode. I got into the habit of playing it on my laptop whenever I just want to kill 15-20 minutes, so now I can reliably get through the 99 levels. I can pull some really slick stuff in this mode, but I have to play with the keyboard, because I'm just deeply used to it, and because the arrows allow for more precise movement. I've never taken a video of a gaming session, but I might do it if anyone cares (recommended methods?).
What are you best at?
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Post by Sarge on Apr 12, 2021 9:18:44 GMT -5
I think in general terms, I'm more "best" at a particular era of games. Bet y'all can guess which one. (It's the NES.) I'm quite good at a lot of games on the system, and have finished some of the hardest games on there, but I'm probably best at the original Contra. I haven't tried to do it in a while, since I now play it casually, but I have four no-death runs to my name in it. But it's the game where I'm actually mad at myself for taking any deaths at all. My expectations have changed from expecting to die a lot (especially in the early days with the 30-life code) to not expecting to die.
Oh, and I do have video evidence! It's not an optimal playthrough (especially at the end; you can take down the heart a lot faster than that), but I got through. This was the fourth no-death run after I pulled it off the first time, decided I wanted to record it and had two other runs desync in the emulator I was using.
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Post by Ex on Apr 12, 2021 9:53:37 GMT -5
Ever since graduating high school, I tend to just become good enough at a game to beat it, then move on to the next one. This is because of having increasingly less time for gaming, yet increasingly more games to play. As a result I don't "master" video games so to speak. Even with really hard games, I just git gud enough to beat them, then move on. Retroactively speaking however, there were games from my childhood and teenage years, which I became super great at, due to having a lot more free time, but a lot less games. These were titles I loved and played over and over and over, beating them multiple times, to the point that I could do so with very little effort. Games that I found secrets in or glitches in, without artificial knowledge, as a result of playing them so much. I even took the time to beat every difficulty mode and unlock every secret. Now I can't remember every game from the late '80s and early '90s I did that with, but I can remember a few: Bionic Commando (NES) F-Zero (SNES) Flashback (Genesis) Pilotwings (SNES) Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES) Super Street Fighter II (SNES) Of all those, if I had to pick one that I was absolutely "the best at", it'd be SSFII. I remember with Super Street Fighter II that I could not find anyone in real life good enough to beat me. None of my friends, no strangers at stores with demo units, or even at arcades. To this day the only person who has stood toe to toe with me in Street Fighter II in real life, is Sarge. But that was only because I was rusty.  However, I never did any official SF tournaments, so who knows. That's because I lived in a very rural area at the time far away from anything like that. |
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Post by Sarge on Apr 12, 2021 10:10:57 GMT -5
Ex is legit. We need to have a rematch. I have to admit, though, I've never been top-tier in SSFII. Most of my time with the series was invested into Street Fighter Alpha 3 when I finally got into fighters. I did a tournament one time, and I think I've hit on it before, in Street Fighter IV. I got bested by my lab student in the final match, mainly because they slightly changed the timing on ultra moves and I couldn't consistently get it to pull off due to not actually having the game. (I literally played it once in-store the day before for about five minutes.) SFIV is very comeback-oriented, so I'd be whooping up on him, but he'd bring it back with those ultras. Ah well, I was happy to bring back the previous match where I went down 0-2 and just went straight to the footsies game for three straight victories.
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Post by Xeogred on Apr 12, 2021 12:23:45 GMT -5
I got this in Mega Man 10 and have yet to meet anyone offline or online that did this too.
You can save in between levels, sure. But you can't save during the boss rush + Wily at the end!!! That took me like a week to finally PERFECT. Kind of mean that literally.
I won a Street Fighter II tournament at a big school endorsed gaming party in high school myself. Got a $50 gift card. That said I'm not a huge SF fan and think I just cheesed everyone with heavy jump kicks.
But I'd say I'm really good at character action games. I got the platinum on DMC3 and also beat DMC4 on every difficulty, including its even more insane Bloody Palace mode. With DMC3, I still wonder if it's even possible to master on the higher difficulties without knowing the jump-cancel attack gimmick. DMC5 is newer and not really retro, but it seems just as good as these. I didn't sink as much time into it though, but I loved it. Came out at a busy time I think so I moved on after a first run or two.
REmake might even be more insane though. Felt like I got possessed pulling that one off. Finish the game in Real Survival mode.
Finish the game in Invisible Enemy mode. Finish the game in three hours. Finish the game using only your knife (no lighter, Defensive Items, and stomping zombie heads). Finish the game without saving. etc... there's literally not much else I could do in REmake.
I've been able to pull off ~50 minute Super Metroid speedruns and dig into the randomizer sometimes. But there's insane pros out there that would make me look like a joke at this game.
I'm pretty good at Doom and some megawads I've played... usually default on Ultra Violence.
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Post by Ex on Apr 12, 2021 14:11:23 GMT -5
I think Xeogred is the best "3D character action" gamer on this board, without question. He's the only one here who's beaten all the Soulsborne stuff, the Nioh games, the NIER stuff, and many others. (Edit: Also anything oldschool DOOM related.) Sarge is the undisputed Lord of Platformers. toei definitely excels at action-puzzle games like Tetris and Buster Bros., probably Puyo stuff too. My strongest suit these days seems to be in SRPGs, I hardly ever have problems acing those and never use a strategy guide or walkthrough - whereas it seems everyone else consults such material while playing them. I'd also destroy anybody on this board in flight simulator combat games. But since I'm the only person who plays those around here, it's not exactly a fair fight. I'd also wager I'm still really good at FPS, since that was the genre I played almost exclusively for a decade. And not just twitchy arcade-y stuff, I was into the hardcore combat sim stuff too where one shot was one kill. anayo is definitely great at old DOS RTS games. Chainsaw Bilqis is likely the best at DRPGs around HRG. I hope he's still alive. @tsumuri was easily the best at shitty survival horror games. I hope he's still alive. As for our other semi-regular members, I'm not sure. You newer dudes gotta talk more about what you like! |
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Post by Sarge on Apr 12, 2021 14:15:07 GMT -5
I think Xeogred probably has a claim on platforming as well when it comes to Mega Man, but probably others, too. |
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Post by Ex on Apr 12, 2021 14:17:43 GMT -5
I think Xeogred probably has a claim on platforming as well when it comes to Mega Man, but probably others, too. I dock him points there for shying away from platformers that use non-traditional traversal mechanics. |
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Post by Xeogred on Apr 12, 2021 14:38:02 GMT -5
I AM VERGIL
Sarge is probably right that there's others I can't think of at the moment. I'm really good at the classic Mario's and Donkey Kong Country games. But I'm sorry Ex , 100% of the time I hold down the run button in stuff like this and need to be free running n' jumping! Grapple hooks...  
As my top favorite game next to Super Metroid (I'm selfish with two favorites!), Link to the Past might count in some way here. But I think I could probably draw all of Super Metroid from memory alone better than I could Link to the Past. Might get a little fuzzy on some of the dungeons, since there's a lot! But back on one of my cartridges for LTTP, I had three save files that were completed. The first one was a normal 100% run with the red tunic and gold sword (level 4), the second file I limited myself to the blue tunic and tempered sword (level 3), then the third file was base green tunic and the Master Sword. That was kind of a fun challenge I did after awhile. I think without the upgrade tunics Ganon can kill you in just a few hits, even with all hearts haha. I guess the real ultimate challenge would be a 3 heart run of any Zelda's... but I'd rather hoard and collect everything in these games. Metroid is the style where I can try to go more lightweight. But I don't care to speedrun Igavania's or anything, or the other Metroid's for that matter.
One character action game did defeat me, it was the Ninja Master Tournament mode of Ninja Gaiden Black. It replaces all enemies with tougher and brand new variants. I remember some of the issue being not that it was just brutally hard but kind of a slog too, like the enemies took forever to kill. I don't know. Sadly I think this content was maybe XBL only so I don't know if it's accessible thesedays. I did beat the first Ninja Gaiden Xbox on all difficulties though but not the others. I've been kind of getting the itch to finally hit up NG2 360, since I've only played Sigma. Or hit up Black on the Xbox. Somehow I lost my copy of Black years ago and had to replace that. I'm not sure if I ever finished Black but I played the heck out of the original.
I wish my character action skills translated to fighting games. It feels like it should be the easiest transition... but the opponent generally being a real human player in fighting games is what throws me off. I feel like I'm more systematic and calculated with how I destroy the CPU in action games, you can kind of manipulate or learn their predictable patterns, etc haha.
I also forgot to make this joke about me and Mega Man, but... I love Mega Man X6. So, that says a lot for those that know about that game. Most HATE it because it's so broken and rushed, but I love seeing it as the ultimate challenge for what all those games built up to. |
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Post by EasyHard on Apr 12, 2021 16:12:45 GMT -5
See for me, mastering games is much more fun than moving on. Same with replaying games vs digging into the pile of unplayed digital games. Skills fade with time though, you have to keep playing the game over and over the remain "your best" at it, although it is easier to regain skill in a game than start from scratch. Like, I've done slick, practiced playthroughs of Super Metroid where I was mocking balling and shineparking around like a madman, but it'd be a very slow playthrough just one year later. Like many, I've spent a lot of time mastering Dark Souls (& DkS2) through repeat playthroughs. I keep track of all my playthroughs in a text file: what my character name was, what my build (or weapons) were, and any playthrough restrictions / gimmicky "themes" to abide by for that run. At some point I started tracking deaths too, sort of like a personal scoring system as well as a journal to see where I die the most. The way I try to master Souls games is to complete, loot, and fight everything while minimizing deaths and also avoiding upgrades or items that I feel makes me too powerful or circumvents too much of the head-on challenge. Perhaps with this crowd my more unique claim to fame might be Touhou games: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJkd-PbIAk Hard as hell to beat all the difficulties, and you've got extra stages and 1ccs to keep yourself busy. You can make an entire lifestyle out of trying to keep up with the series, I've only played about half a dozen of them. 90s FPSes hold some kind of special fondness over me. I'll replay Dark Forces or Turok 2 even when I feel like I know where every enemy is. It is just fun to turn those games inside out and make them my bitch I guess. Perfect Dark is one of my all time favorites, and that game in particular is really fun to start a new save file and tick off all the little challenges and difficulties. Resident Evil 4. Maybe this is just me, but it feels like everyone and their brother gets the bug in them at some point to play this repeatedly, and I'm just as susceptible. The inventory and shop system gives a lot of replay depth to this game, but perhaps for purposes of this thread though the skill ceiling is fairly low. With RPGs that I master through repeat play I end up accumulating lots of notes and spreadsheets. Games like Etrian Odyssey, Final Fantasy 6, or Shining Force. You don't want to know some of the assiduous mathematical analyses I've done at times. I mean, I could list games all day at some point. toei : couldn't you just use OBS Studio to record a video? OBS Studio is free software and if you haven't done video recording before it is fairly easy to learn, especially if you just want a quick gameplay capture and don't care about editing (which would require other programs). Xeogred You should try playing LTTP with just your Uncle's Sword. You will need to use Game Genine to give yourself access to the Dark World (e.g., by cheating the hammer). It's a fun challenge, especially paired with other restrictions. If you cheat the mirror and magic pearl you can even do the dungeons out of order before you complete the light world. |
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However, I never did any official SF tournaments, so who knows. That's because I lived in a very rural area at the time far away from anything like that.
