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Post by bonesnapdeez on Jan 24, 2018 14:41:11 GMT -5
Oh, and there are THREE Game Gear Shining Force games.
Shining Force Gaiden Shining Force: The Sword of Hajya (Shining Force Gaiden II) Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict
Shining Force CD is the first two of these three, with some additional content.
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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2018 15:06:47 GMT -5
Awesome bits of info Bone, very helpful, thanks man. Have an ice cream eatin' waifu as thanks
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Post by Sarge on Jan 24, 2018 16:37:48 GMT -5
I think someone posted this in another thread, but to go with the mention of Arc the Lad, I'd also throw in Twilight of the Spirits. Not grid-based movement anymore, but I remember really enjoying it when it came out. I believe it's also on PSN if you have to go more modern. Skip End of Darkness, though; it's a pretty iffy action-RPG.
Faselei! is worth playing for sure. I still need to finish my near-end game one of these days.
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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2018 16:57:17 GMT -5
I'd also throw in Twilight of the Spirits. I bought it a few years ago on your mention. Have I played it yet? Faselei! is worth playing for sure. I still need to finish my near-end game one of these days. Go with melee to make the end game easy.
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Post by toei on Jan 24, 2018 19:16:41 GMT -5
Twilight of the Spirits is really good. I mostly agree with what Bone said so I'll stick to a few basic points - Crystak Warriors is very basic in terms of RPG elements, but its mechanics are still pretty cool in a very 8-bit way. Royal Stone is a lot more developed in that area, not only does it look like a Genesis game at times, but it almost feels like one. Definitely recommended. Bahamut Lagoon, though... I really liked the story, the world, and the aesthetics. The battle system is great in theory; you approach enemy units like in any SRPG, but then it turns into a turn-based RPG battle, where you control each member of the unit individually. The problem is that it's the most absurdly easy SRPG since Farland Story. It's impossible to lose, so any strategic elements goes out the window. Because of this, the gameplay is clearly the weak link. I still liked it thanks to its other qualities, but you should be warned.
Vixen 357 is an extremely slow-paced SRPG with large-scale mech battles. I would compare it to the Robot Wars games, from what little I've played of them, but slower. I dropped it around Sc. 6 or 7, I think, because I couldn't take these interminable battles anymore.
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Post by Ex on Jan 24, 2018 21:23:15 GMT -5
I think, because I couldn't take these interminable battles anymore. Thanks for the input. The quoted bit above makes me sad to hear, but maybe using fast forward in an emulator can make things bearable. I do so love my mecha SRPGs.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 29, 2018 0:08:13 GMT -5
So, just out of curiosity, what is the best isometric SRPG? Is it Final Fantasy Tactics? I ask because maybe with some time having passed, I'll be able to grok what I did wrong at the end of the first chapter all those years ago.
Still wish I'd sold that copy I found when it was going for around $100. Of course, I had no way of knowing it was going Greatest Hits.
(Also, another aside: What classes should I be gunning for? I'm not necessarily looking to break the game wide open, but I do want some classes and skills that are relatively effective.)
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Post by Ex on Jan 29, 2018 0:19:07 GMT -5
Is it Final Fantasy Tactics? Purely isometric, the first one that popped in my head was Fallout Tactics, but it's not for everybody, admittedly. Speaking universally of the isometric SRPGs I've played, I'd go with FFT as the best. It really is fantastic, except for one mission. Overall easily a 9/10. I liked FFT wayyy more than Tactics Ogre. I think people get carried away with the FFT classes stuff. I don't remember what classes I used to beat the game, but it was nothing extravagant or crazy. FFT is really easy, honestly. (Piece of cake compared to say Tactics Ogre's "Hanging Gardens", or Front Mission 4/5, or Fallout Tactics.) In that regard, the original PS1 FFT is more difficult than the re-balanced PSP port. Another reason I went with the PS1 version. If you've never beaten FFT, yeah Sarge, you should. It's one of those rare games everyone should beat IMO.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 29, 2018 11:28:48 GMT -5
Yeah, it's on my list to pick back up again since I pulled the old PS1 out. Although I'll definitely do it with the dialogue from the PSP version. I'd like to play on actual hardware if I can, but barring that, I may also do the patches to the PSP version and play through the PSTV. Either way seems like it'd be pretty great.
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Post by Ex on Jan 29, 2018 12:05:19 GMT -5
Coincidentally last Friday I pulled my old PS1 back out too. I was going through my dork cave's closet, looking for stuff to sell that I no longer want. The PS1 I have has been modded to work with PS-X-Change, and still has the PS-X-Change disc. I used to use it to play imports (and backups) before I had a good enough computer to run PS1 emulation perfectly. I fired 'er up, and it still works great. I'm trying to sell it now though, I don't actually need it anymore.
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