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Post by anayo on Sept 15, 2022 18:01:16 GMT -5
Was I the only one here who got an N64 but no memory card, making it necessary to either start over from scratch in certain games or just leave the console on forever until beating it? (Something I actually tried to do with the 3D platformer Tonic Trouble.)
How about the expansion pack? Did anyone else buy Majora's Mask without getting the needed extra 4 MB of RAM first? How about Perfect Dark?
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 15, 2022 18:45:37 GMT -5
I actually went most of my N64 life without the Rumble Pak. But I had a few memory cards. I recall them being useful for the Rush games and Perfect Dark's multiplayer stuff to more easily have your stats carry over to a friends place. I got the expansion pack with DK64. Weren't these games completely unplayable without it? Man... wonder how many kids suffered that scenario.
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Post by anayo on Sept 15, 2022 18:55:36 GMT -5
I actually went most of my N64 life without the Rumble Pak. But I had a few memory cards. I recall them being useful for the Rush games and Perfect Dark's multiplayer stuff to more easily have your stats carry over to a friends place. I got the expansion pack with DK64. Weren't these games completely unplayable without it? Man... wonder how many kids suffered that scenario. Yes, DK64, Zelda MM, and Perfect Dark's single player campaign were all unplayable with no expansion pak. I learned this the hard way when I got Zelda MM for my birthday in the year 2000.
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Post by Ex on Sept 15, 2022 19:05:33 GMT -5
I learned this the hard way when I got Zelda MM for my birthday in the year 2000. "Mom can I have my Christmas present early please."
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 15, 2022 19:18:00 GMT -5
Now that is true pain.
I think an even worse situation would be the younger generation who probably had parents confused about the Wii / Wii U situation. You'd even hear it from retail workers, the mainstream average person was clueless about that split and that the U was an actually different console or vice versa. This was a mid 90's Sega level mistake.
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Post by anayo on Sept 15, 2022 22:26:53 GMT -5
I'm a N64 hater, and I think it's easily the most overrated console ever made, particularly in the West, where people sometimes walk around wearing N64 t-shirts with no shame... Ocarina of Time was cool, but no more. Even then, the hype upon release - the 10/10s reviews, the instant declarations of "this is the greatest game of all time" - smelled like bullshit. Unlike SM64, which I watched more than played, I did finish it, many years later. It's a 7/10. This is how I felt playing Half Life 1 in 2004. That's what I meant when I said the Playstation was great at a very broad range of stuff while the N64 was superb at a very narrow range of stuff. N64 knocked it out of the park with some genres, like first person shooters. Other genres - like JRPGs - simply weren't available. Another problem with N64 is that some of its star genres - like 3D mascot platformers - just don't appeal to me anymore. Going back to my NES vs. N64 comparison earlier, that actually makes the NES age more gracefully because I'd rather play one of those 8-bit Disney Capcom games rather than something like Glover or Chameleon Twist. Those really only made sense when I was in elementary school. But I find NES to be more timeless, somehow. 100% this. I had a blast with the N64's wrestling games. They probably don't get talked about much now because they're sports games.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 15, 2022 22:33:49 GMT -5
I didn't have that problem with N64, but I did with the PSX. Didn't have any concept of memory cards. I'd been briefed enough by Nintendo Power to know the Expansion Pak was needed, and I managed to wrangle one at a pawn shop a long time ago. In retrospect... uh, I might not have had them replace it in the system it was in with a jumper pack, so... whoops. I didn't know that at the time. Or maybe I did have them replace it. Heck, I don't know anymore, haha. Water under the bridge.
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Post by anayo on Sept 16, 2022 11:48:07 GMT -5
I learned this the hard way when I got Zelda MM for my birthday in the year 2000. "Mom can I have my Christmas present early please." Actually I think this was my year 2001 birthday. That detail matters because MM had been out long enough for me to get a preowned copy for $30. My birthday checks from grandma, grandpa, etc. totaled $60. So, I thought I'd have $30 left over for other stuff after buying MM. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Majora's Mask needed the expansion pack, but I think I was in denial over that. I thought, "There's no way they'd REQUIRE that thing just for the game to run. It must just be extra or something." Then I got that screen telling me I couldn't play it at all and my heart sank. I would just sit motionless, staring at it for what felt like forever. I remember my Mom being a little irritated over it, but a few days later she got in the car and drove me back to the mall to buy the expansion pack. I was so pissed that I'd have to spend all $60 of my birthday money on ONE game. I didn't understand technical stuff very well back then. About 3 years later in 2004 when I got a Pentium IV PC for Christmas, I expected it to just run Halo: Combat Evolved out of the box. When I learned I'd need a graphics card, I thought, "This system cost hundreds of dollars and they want me to spend even MORE money just to get Halo to run?" Thankfully Zelda MM was worth every cent. My brother and I both played it death as kids and cherish it today. These days my brother isn't crazy about old technology, but he still made a point of putting together his own small N64 collection including Zelda MM. He also bought the 3DS version as soon as it came out and even lent it to me by mail cause I was living too far away for him to just drive over and hand it to me.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Sept 17, 2022 10:22:44 GMT -5
Almost forgot about Kirby 64: the best platformer of the 5th generation.
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Post by Xeogred on Sept 17, 2022 13:13:47 GMT -5
Almost forgot about Kirby 64: the best platformer of the 5th generation. I thought this one was getting a remake/remaster, but it's a Wii game instead. So the N64 Kirby is the good one? lol
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