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Post by bonesnapdeez on Nov 10, 2022 12:56:43 GMT -5
The original FF and FFII have weird shitty pacing.
In Final Fantasy you hit that swamp ass area early on where the game wants you to level up 100 times to get all the new spells and defeat the newer, harder monsters.
And FFII is just all over the place with its weird leveling system.
As far as the turn-based DQ-style JRPGs on the Fami go, Lagrange Point is one I really like. It has those great classic anime space aesthetics and an awesome Konami OST.
Other fun ones, with more of a feudal Japanese setting, are Momotarou Densetsu and Jajamaru Ninpou Chou. I need to drive deeper into the Heracles games, eventually.
Another thing worth mentioning about the Famicom (maybe?) is that there are legitimate KUSOGE RPGS. Hoshi o Miru Hito, Ganso Saiyuuki, Valkyrie no Bouken, Mirai Shinwa Jarvas, and Seiken Psycho Caliber (disk) are stunningly bad. You won't find a cluster of bad JRPGs like this on any other console.
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Post by Ex on Nov 10, 2022 13:01:31 GMT -5
In Final Fantasy you hit that swamp ass area early on where the game wants you to level up 100 times to get all the new spells and defeat the newer, harder monsters. That's exactly where I quit playing FF1 NES back in 1991. I remember losing against a squad of mindflayers there, then just turning the game off forever. >Lagrange Point That one has a great premise, strong graphics, and an incredible OST. But its encounter rate is straight up psychotic. I gave it a few hours and quit in disgust.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2022 13:34:38 GMT -5
The Marsh Cave is probably the hardest Final Fantasy gets. You really do have to grind up, make sure you've got tons of potions, and hope that you get really lucky in the battle with the mindfl... er, wizards and they only spawn a few and not a ton of them. (Also, that you can pop off a hit-all spell if you have a black mage.) The game smooths out significantly from there, with very little grinding needed the remainder of the game.
Dragon Warrior IV paces itself quite well, but there are a few points where you'll want to stop and grind. There is a fight that I'd always have to grind up for after getting my last party member in the final chapter. And you might have to beef up a little bit to make the last battle more palatable, but I've finished it with my party in the high 30s.
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Post by toei on Nov 10, 2022 19:57:42 GMT -5
Ex I had the same experience as Ex with Lagrange Point. Behind the 16-bitish look, it's just another empty pile of random encounter, like most NES RPGs.
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Post by Kazin on Nov 10, 2022 21:32:20 GMT -5
lmao you can't manually control your party members in Dragon Warrior IV NES in chapter five. What an absolute joke.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 10, 2022 22:06:13 GMT -5
lmao you can't manually control your party members in Dragon Warrior IV NES in chapter five. What an absolute joke. FRICK... I forgot about that HUGE change.
Maybe I don't want to play NES DQ4...
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Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2022 22:16:50 GMT -5
Haha, yeah, that's one of the divisive changes. You basically have to bench Cristo for bosses, he has a thing for casting Beat/Defeat on them...
Strangely, though, I don't remember it being a huge issue - most of the time they'd do what I wanted, and sometimes they'd dynamically save me with a heal that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise. But it is frustrating when they do something braindead.
Most of the time, my team consisted of melee folks, with a healer on the side when necessary. Obviously Nara for bosses, because of Cristo's problems, but sometimes having Mara's Blazemost was useful, and of course Brey has Bikill.
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Post by Xeogred on Nov 10, 2022 22:56:01 GMT -5
Cristo... Nara... Mara You and your Dragon Warrior names.
Maya is still probably my favorite glass cannon in the series. The DQ's have kind of changed my mind on mage characters and to not be quite as frugal about MP. Nah, these Slimes are going to get KABOOMED! My favorite DQ4 party was Hero, Ragnar, Alena, and Maya. Alena was so dang good as well.
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Post by Sarge on Nov 10, 2022 23:25:27 GMT -5
Alena friggin' rocks, and she's even better in the NES version than she is on DS - upwards of a 25% critical rate at level 64+. And hey, I grew up with Dragon Warrior IV. Of course those are the names I use.
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Post by toei on Nov 11, 2022 6:08:40 GMT -5
Taloon Gang
And it's true, not being able to control the other party members in the last chapter doesn't matter too much, they mostly act right. I wonder if the reasoning was that you end up more or less with a party or leaders (or you can, anyway), so you can't tell them all what to do?
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