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Post by Xeogred on Nov 25, 2019 14:07:01 GMT -5
Any PS2 sports / racing games you all really like? My nephew wants some for Christmas. I'll probably just hit up Vintage Stock someday and scoop up a bunch of stuff that might work for him.
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Post by Ex on Nov 25, 2019 16:38:15 GMT -5
Any PS2 sports / racing games you all really like? Don't know about sports, but I very much enjoyed this racer: Game critics at the time hated it though. Oh well.
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Post by Xeogred on Dec 2, 2019 14:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by Ex on Dec 2, 2019 15:43:40 GMT -5
So the PS1 is a quarter century old now. It's been about that long since I first played one. That was over at a friend's house back in the fall of 1995, another dude brought his PS1 over to show it off. The first PS1 game I ever played as a result was Battle Arena Toshinden. That really does feel like it was exactly that long ago.
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Post by Xeogred on Dec 2, 2019 15:58:53 GMT -5
For me it must have been maybe a bit before the N64 came out. My mom cleaned houses and offices for clients and we were at one house. Sometimes I helped out by vacuuming or whatever, but I remember getting to play someone's Playstation (I assume my mom got permission from the owners haha), the awesome long boxes made an impression on me, especially Doom's violent one that was striking back then. I played some Doom, Crash, and maybe some kind of dinosaur/Jurassic Park game there. I knew of PC's back then but I still think a disc based console and memory cards were pretty alien to me. I still have a fondness for the original non-joystick PS1 controller and kind of want one for emulation or something. To be honest though I can't recall another time I used them after that. This must have been before 5th/6th grade, when some of my friends started having Playstation's so it wasn't totally new to me or mindblowing. I remember one of my best friends introduced me to the holy trinity of FF7, MGS, and RE2. Doesn't get much better than that. He also had some of the Duke Nukem games, Hard Edge, Parasite Eve, and lots of other cool stuff. Another friend of mine had some WWF games, Parappa, and one of the earlier Armored Core's. It wasn't until middle school when I got a PS2 and could finally start diving into the PSX though. The first brand new game I ever bought was Chrono Cross. Finally got to hit up FF7, FF9, and FF8 in that order. The PS2 was the "family" console though so I couldn't take it to my room or move it around. So for awhile I traded my N64 with a friend for his PSX. Eventually the PS2 became mine basically or I got my own slim at some point. The rest is history!
This might be because I've never always loved the Playstation's first party offerings, but it took me four generations to realize this is my favorite platform after the 16bit era. I was initially more into the N64, the Xbox, and 360 for the last three generations. Except, I still keep playing PS1-PS3 games to this day and have never stopped. The monstrous libraries they build up in the end is kind of unstoppable. I finally went with PS4 first this gen and have not regretted it at all.
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Post by Sarge on Dec 2, 2019 16:15:17 GMT -5
I played a demo unit in a store, probably the year it came out. But I didn't get one until 1999, along with a Greatest Hits copy of Final Fantasy VII.
As for Battle Arena Toshinden... oof. I played through that earlier this year, and it's rough. Impressive, yes, and important historically, but it just isn't a good game.
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Post by toei on Dec 2, 2019 16:16:53 GMT -5
I watched and occasionally played Shenmue 2 with a friend for a few hours yesterday and I liked it way better than I did when I played it on my own. It's so laidback, and the locations are just incredible. At the time I wanted more fights, and I still think the first one didn't have enough, but right now a game where fighting is secondary feels great. Part of the reason I haven't been gaming for a while is just that I was sick of all the fighting and all the dying in older games. It had gotten more stressful than fun. Also, I'm pretty sure the QTEs were a lot worse when I first played it because I was emulating it and DC emulation's timing is still a little messed up. Sarge I don't even know whether Toshinden is really important historically, other than maybe as an early sales argument for the PSX since people were completely blinded by those graphics. It's really a terrible game. Some of the music is great, though, and the character designs were pretty decent too, but it was just an incredibly slow, choppy game, and the gameplay was basically just "bad Street Fighter 2". Some people credit it for the sidestep, but Dark Edge did it first. Both Virtua Fighter and Tekken had their own gameplay style and feel that was distinct from 2D fighters, which isn't true for Toshinden. But yeah.
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Post by Sarge on Dec 2, 2019 16:31:54 GMT -5
Well, not for mechanics, just that it was a major component in the early sales of the PSX, as you say. I remember it being heavily marketed at the time, with the dominatrix-looking lady featuring prominently in those ads.
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Post by toei on Dec 2, 2019 16:56:14 GMT -5
Well, not for mechanics, just that it was a major component in the early sales of the PSX, as you say. I remember it being heavily marketed at the time, with the dominatrix-looking lady featuring prominently in those ads. It got rave reviews all across the board, too. It's one of my favorite moments in gaming history, because everyone loved it for a very short time and by 1996 it had already "aged poorly". I actually played the Toshinden Remix (the Saturn version) with the famously awful voice acting a lot, too. I thought it was cool at the time.
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Post by Ex on Dec 2, 2019 17:10:28 GMT -5
right now a game where fighting is secondary feels great. Part of the reason I haven't been gaming for a while is just that I was sick of all the fighting and all the dying in older games I believe these experiences would be of value:
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