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Post by Ex on Jan 21, 2018 14:07:36 GMT -5
SNES, the greatest controller of all time. For 2D games, I completely agree. What's everyone think about 007 Goldeneye in this respect? Its controls were OK, but even back when I played it in 1997, I thought GoldenEye was overrated. The only part I liked was the splitscreen multiplayer, as the single player campaign was junk. (Compared to Quake II, Outlaws, or Jedi Knight, which I was playing around then.) I guess if I had been twelve years old and had never played FPS games before I had an N64, I might have felt differently. The FPS I played the most on N64 was actually Turok: Rage Wars, but again, only multiplayer. Of all the N64 games I played during their heyday, Mario Kart 64 and Super Smash Bros. by far got the most attention. I had one particular friend I mightily enjoyed trolling in those games.
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Post by anayo on Jan 22, 2018 15:21:23 GMT -5
What's everyone think about 007 Goldeneye in this respect? Its controls were OK, but even back when I played it in 1997, I thought GoldenEye was overrated. The only part I liked was the splitscreen multiplayer, as the single player campaign was junk. (Compared to Quake II, Outlaws, or Jedi Knight, which I was playing around then.) I guess if I had been twelve years old and had never played FPS games before I had an N64, I might have felt differently. The FPS I played the most on N64 was actually Turok: Rage Wars, but again, only multiplayer. Of all the N64 games I played during their heyday, Mario Kart 64 and Super Smash Bros. by far got the most attention. I had one particular friend I mightily enjoyed trolling in those games. By 1998 I had played Doom and Quake, but not Quake II, Outlaws, or Jedi Knight. Still haven't to be honest. At the time Goldeneye seemed way more advanced than those "wander around in a dungeon and kill all the monsters" Id Software shooters on PC. Compared to Half Life, though, it was downright geriatric. I still really like Goldeneye, though. I guess it's like how vector graphics belong to an extinct evolutionary line of video games. Future FPS's drifted farther and farther away from Goldeneye's design, so today it feels unique to me rather than obsolete. I loved both Turok: Rage Wars as well as OG Turok. Rage Wars was what I settled for because I didn't have a PC capable of playing Unreal Tournament until 2004. Turok felt like it was singing from the same sheet of music as those "kill all the demons in the dungeon and collect keys" shooters mentioned earlier. Which is interesting to me, since that genre fell out of vogue within the N64's own sales lifespan. I don't like the black/white or start/back button placements either! I have to really consciously think about it when I press them.
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Post by Sarge on Jan 22, 2018 16:48:03 GMT -5
I got used to the black/white buttons. They're sub-optimal for fighters, but it was fine for most everything else. Still think that controller was much better for FPSs. Microsoft, up until this last generation, had the edge on the quality of their analog sticks in my opinion. They're a lot tighter, which lets me be a bit more precise. Given my decided mediocrity in FPS games, precision helps me a ton more than the twitch portion.
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Post by dunpeal2064 on Jan 23, 2018 10:09:59 GMT -5
My top 3 favorite controllers:
Sega Saturn Model 2: This is, to me, the perfect non-analogue controller. 6 face buttons, 2 shoulders, and a great D-Pad. Excellent shape too.
Dual Shock 2: Honestly, I like all of the Dual Shocks I have used, this is just the one I've used the most. I do prefer the shoulders on older models to the new ps4 one.
SNES: The nostalgia controller. I just get happy holding this. I think the Saturn controller is objectively better, but I love this damn thing.
My top 3 least favorite controllers:
N64: I didn't like it when it came out, got used to it, and now again don't like it. Its design is weird (It just logically bothers me that all buttons aren't accessible from the same comfortable grip), and the stick is just garbage.
DC: I really don't like the DC controller. Its buttons feel stiff, the shoulder buttons have too much give to em, the controller is too big for how many buttons is had, and mostly, I hate the D-Pad. For a console with so many cool arcade games on it, its a shame its D-Pad it just terrible. It works fine otherwise, but I really only use the DC as a NAOMI-at-home machine, and considering how perfectly the Saturn operated in STV-at-home mode, its a bummer the DC's controller didn't lend itself as well.
Gamecube: This is probably the best controller that I don't like. Its objectively fine, and even rather comfortable. its just... I don't know, it feels unnecessary. Different for the sake of it. Gamecube games aren't some mythical breed that need really awkward button layouts, the standard would have been fine. It might be nitpicky, but it just bothers me. I love Nintendo, even when they are weird, but this just feels phoned in.
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Post by Ex on Jan 23, 2018 12:05:14 GMT -5
I've never liked the N64 controller. Period.
I don't like the DC pad's analog stick, and having the cord wrap around backwards like that was just dumb, but the VMU is still cool. It's a fairly comfortable controller.
The GameCube's controller is so weird. It is a very comfortable controller to hold, but the Z-button's size and location is wtf. The c-stick is total wtf. The micro sized d-pad is wtf. Just a whole lotta wtf going on with the GameCube controller, but it gets the job done better than its predecessor did.
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Post by Xeogred on Mar 13, 2019 19:10:08 GMT -5
Since we were talking some modern retro styled controllers recently I'll bump this thread up again, since I just got my 8Bitdo M30.
A bit smaller than I expected. I visually measured it to my Genesis and Saturn 6 pad controllers and yeah, it's a bit smaller and I don't love how the legs are shorter when it's still got that indented curve on the bottom in the middle, so I'm not sure if it'll be as comfortable as my SNES Buffalo gamepad there (which I think might even be better than official US SNES controllers!) but this should be a big upgrade over the Hyberkin replica I had which sucked. I'm not sure I'll mess with it tonight yet but hopefully sometime this month during the Master System theme. The buttons feel -excellent-, which is where the Hyperkin one failed.
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Post by Ex on Mar 13, 2019 20:56:37 GMT -5
A bit smaller than I expected. Yeah I'm kinda disappointed there. I thought this would be the same size as the actual Genesis controller. Kinda hesitant to bite now. It still looks good though. Do me a favor man, turn your Buffalo SNES pad over and upload a photo of its backside. There should be a sticker on the back of the controller, that shows a serial number and where it was actually manufactured.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 13, 2019 21:50:37 GMT -5
Didn't they have a couple of 6-button variants back in the day?
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Post by Xeogred on Mar 13, 2019 21:59:58 GMT -5
Do me a favor man, turn your Buffalo SNES pad over and upload a photo of its backside. There should be a sticker on the back of the controller, that shows a serial number and where it was actually manufactured.
Sarge : Official Genesis ones? Yes and they rocked.
I maybe had a knockoff myself though, I recall the start button in the middle being blue for mine.
The addition of the shoulder buttons for the M30 will be nice.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 13, 2019 22:05:41 GMT -5
That's the one I have, it's Sega-branded, but has blue buttons. It's larger and thicker than the other one I have, which looks like the one in your picture there. The d-pad on this one feels different, too. I'd say the shape is more similar to the 3-button controller. It's also... not great on the quality. Also, the way you phrased your statement on the iBuffalo controller, it sounded like you were saying it might have been made in China. I had to parse it fairly carefully to catch your drift.
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