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Post by anayo on Sept 1, 2019 13:16:22 GMT -5
My issue with the game is that it lacks a traditional power up system and anything on screen to try and collect in the midst of the chaos. I think the traditional shmup design works well because you have to work towards getting those power ups, increasing your weapons and abilities, etc. Slowly getting these things teaches the player better, instead of how Radiant Silvergun just immediately lets you have access to a dozen or so weapons, I just don't even know where to start or how to experiment in parts. Also hate to be honest but it's polygonal look doesn't really look at that great thesedays, though I guess there's some Star Fox (SNES) like charm to the blocky enemies and stuff.
I've warmed up to bullet hell over the years, if you want a good one to check out I'd recommend Mushihimesama.
Radiant Silvergun's lack of a power up system is a great observation. I hadn't thought about that until you mentioned it. As a Sega Saturn aficionado, I'll say Radiant Silvergun has very attractive graphics by Saturn standards. Taken by those standards, it scores points for visual spectacle that it perhaps loses elsewhere. I've heard of Mushihimesama before, but I'm afraid bullet hell is one of those genres I can't really warm up to. I'm more of a Axelay/MUSHA/Thunderforce IV guy.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 1, 2019 13:43:32 GMT -5
You definitely want to take advantage of the sword! Half the battle is slashing those pink bullets to charge up for a mega attack.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 7:10:33 GMT -5
More like 'game I'm not finishing right now'. Can't say it's a great game yet since I've only played through the first mission, but GitS for the PS2 bears almost all the markings of a great game. Feels like a more arcade-y and less stealth focused MGS2 or a more cerebral P.N. 03, however you want to look at it. Unfortunately, my PC is too weak to emulate it properly, so I'd just do myself and the game a disservice by playing it right now. I'll go back to it when I buy myself a better PC or something. Ironic too, since I actually own a physical copy of this game but no working PS2.
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Post by Ex on Sept 17, 2019 9:12:37 GMT -5
@tsumuri
I appreciate that you tried GitS:SAC on PS2. The training mission and first mission of the game didn't intrigue me very strongly, but the further I got into the experience, the more enthralled I became with it. There's some nice surprises ahead.
I can't remember exactly which part of the world you live in, but are used PS2s hard to acquire where you live?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 9:31:17 GMT -5
I can't remember exactly which part of the world you live in, but are used PS2s hard to acquire where you live? Nah, I'm sure they're easy to come by pretty much anywhere, but I think buying a retrocompatible PS3 would make for a more sensible purchase. I heard only some models are backwards compatible.
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Post by Ex on Sept 17, 2019 9:36:39 GMT -5
I think buying a retrocompatible PS3 would make for a more sensible purchase. I heard only some models are backwards compatible. If you don't care to use Free McBoot or Swap Magic for PS2 games, then yes I agree a retro-compatible PS3 is the best course of action.
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Post by Sarge on Sept 17, 2019 11:28:29 GMT -5
Finding PS3s with backwards compatibility can actually be something of a challenge. Especially since a lot of the original models tend to not work anymore. Folks don't realize it because the 360 was so much worse, but the PS3 had heat issues as well, resulting in the "Yellow Light of Death". It just usually took a bit longer to manifest.
Also, note that there was software/hardware backwards compatibility in some models, but I'm pretty sure Sony patched it out at some point with a firmware update.
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Post by hooplehead on Sept 17, 2019 11:38:19 GMT -5
@tsumuri
Buyer beware on the backwards compatible PS3's: Many of them are susceptible to the yellow light of death, which is the PS3-equivalent of the 360's red ring. The only backwards compatible models are the big, fat ones from 2006-2008, and they basically have issues with overheating. And now that they're all 10+ years old, these deaths are becoming very frequent. You have to be super careful with them unless you're up for fixing it yourself (although there aren't any 100% certain fixes for the YLOD).
As Ex said, you're better off getting one of the later models, which are not prone to dying, and hacking it to play PS2 rom files. The PS3 is one of the easiest consoles to hack, by the way, so it isn't too fiddly.
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Post by Ex on Sept 17, 2019 11:42:22 GMT -5
As Ex said, you're better off getting one of the later models, which are not prone to dying, and hacking it to play PS2 rom files. The PS3 is one of the easiest consoles to hack, by the way, so it isn't too fiddly. Well I was actually talking about hacking a real PS2 to play burned DVDs, or ISOs off a hard drive. But I agree from what you and Sarge said about the failure rates concerning older PS2-compatible PS3s - it sounds like getting a later model PS3 and hacking it for PS2 retro-compatibility is the better idea. I didn't know that the older PS3s were so prone to failure. It makes sense though, given they were using the same kind of heat-decrepit solder the initial 360s used.
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Post by hooplehead on Sept 17, 2019 11:44:22 GMT -5
Oh, right. I forgot you can do that stuff to sixth gen consoles. Probably since they usually lack HDDs.
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