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Post by anayo on Jan 15, 2023 9:24:38 GMT -5
It's strange to think about whether 10 or 20 years from now PS4 or XBOX One will eventually be considered nostalgic. But sooner or later that time will come.
Personally, I don't predict that PS4 and XBOX One will be desirable in the future. They both sold well, so they'll be plentiful and easy to find. Also, their successors - the PS5 and Xbox Series consoles - are not only backwards compatible, they also make older games perform better. So, I foresee that in a world where PS4 and PS5 are equally outdated, few will choose the worse option on purpose. I find it similar to the PS2 and Wii's backwards compatibility, except this time around the newer hardware actually gives the older games a performance uplift.
On the other hand, I predict that the Wii U is going to be very costly and sought after. Its sales numbers were miserable, similar to North American sales for Sega Saturn and Turbografx 16. It's also from Nintendo, which never seems to go out of style. The Wii-U underwhelmed me when you could find them in stores, but I predict it will have a cult following in the future.
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Post by Ex on Jan 15, 2023 20:01:03 GMT -5
The Wii U's potential future value was diminished by the Switch raiding its library for ports. Library exclusivity goes a long way towards a console's impending "retro value". Modern consoles with mass quantities of non-exclusive game libraries do have a dimmer prospect in that regard.
The 3DS and its library will be worth some $$$ in years to come. I'm holding on to my 3DS machines and library, guarantee.
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Post by Moulinoski on Jan 16, 2023 9:33:42 GMT -5
There are some Wii U games that are still exclusive to it such as Devil’s Third and the Zelda HD remasters (for now). Is Zombi U still exclusive to it? I think it is. And the first Splatoon is on it as the Switch only got sequels to it (but they look like the same game to me so maybe it doesn’t count). Xenoblade Chronicles X is still only on Wii U (for now).
I’m sure some people who were born less than ten years ago will look back on the 3DS, PS Vita, Wii U, PS4, and Xbox One with nostalgia. 3DS and PS Vita are already “retro” aren’t they? Brr…
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Post by Ex on Jan 16, 2023 10:04:53 GMT -5
Moulinoski - The remaining Wii U exclusives on the platform, which are of high enough quality* to be meaningful: Kirby and the Rainbow Curse Paper Mario: Color Splash Star Fox Zero Xenoblade Chronicles XIt would not surprise me if Nintendo ports all of those (sans Star Fox Zero) to the Switch 2. I expect the Switch 2 to be retro-compatible with the Switch. In that regard, a player with a Switch 2 will have all of the good once-exclusive Wii U games at their disposal.
*Devil's Third is not a good game, but could be considered a collector's item in time, due to its heritage and controversy.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Jan 16, 2023 10:51:27 GMT -5
Due to games being mostly multiplat on standardized hardware, plus heavy amounts of porting and reissuing, it's hard to imagine Microsoft and Soyny consoles exuding any sort intrigue or mystique in the future. As in, no one, barring hardware collectors, in 2050 is going to want to track down a PS4 in the same way that someone today might desire a TurboGrafx-16. Individuals might have personal nostalgia for their PS5 in the years to come, but such consoles will not be linked to larger cultural nostalgia in the same ways that the NES and Genesis were.
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Post by Moulinoski on Jan 16, 2023 12:27:22 GMT -5
I forgot to account for how different platforms all have the same games now barring a few exclusives. I’ve been spending a lot of time over in Nintendo and Steam land with a few stints into PS4 when a game was too powerful for me to run on my computer (which Windows updates kept ruining the console-like changes I made to it). In that regard, I imagine that people maybe might view the games with nostalgia rather than the hardware. Come to think of it, do game systems even have much personality anymore? I even struggle to remember the Wii’s design compared to the GameCube or the N64. Even the PS1 stands out more to me than any of its descendants.
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Post by Ex on Jan 16, 2023 13:34:48 GMT -5
do game systems even have much personality anymore? From the 8th gen and forward; no. We can mainly thank Unreal and Unity engines for that.
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Post by Xeogred on Jan 16, 2023 13:46:49 GMT -5
7th gen will probably be the cut off for me, simply because of how offline those platforms still feel in a good way. The PS3 menu is a little clunky but it is what it is, never changing or moving things around on its own. You don't boot it up randomly every few weeks only to see a new giant touch screen like box with FORTNITE, sports you don't give a damn about or some Hollywood music crap, etc ads snuck their way into the menu front and center. Sure you can delete the ad but have fun seeing it again a few weeks later. I hate how PS4 games are just download keys that require day one patches and mandatory installations to play. Gone are the days of getting a new game in and excitedly getting to play it right away, instead have fun watching it download and install updates for an hour. I'm sure the new Xbox's are just as bad or worse from the UI updates I saw over the years after the 360 Blades.
All that matters now is the means to playing the best version of whatever modern games. And I'm not going to waste my time buying much indie/smaller games on most 8th gen stuff because Nintendo and them will love nothing more than cutting off these libraries eventually, as they have done three times already (Wii, WiiU, 3DS).
There's great games these gens but yeah, I don't have the same level of love for the hardware like I do the older stuff that simply worked better and were more hassle free.
8th gen is probably already old to kids thesedays. These are people growing up on phones/tablets. Maybe they'll have nostalgia for the Switch a bit. But I doubt many Gen Z look back on old stuff with any fondness and they'll be quick to move on. Too slow for them.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Jan 16, 2023 14:36:54 GMT -5
do game systems even have much personality anymore? From the 8th gen and forward; no. We can mainly thank Unreal and Unity engines for that. To me choosing between a PS5 and Xbox Series X would be like choosing between a Panasonic DVD player and a Magnavox DVD player. They're both sterile boxes designed to "run" things, and there's nothing inherently interesting about the hardware.
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Post by Kazin on Jan 16, 2023 15:33:54 GMT -5
The PS5 is, at least, interesting in an aesthetic sense in how absolutely hideously ugly it is.
My take on the question in the title of the thread is "probably." It just won't be by us, or people slightly younger than us. But the people who were little kids when the PS4 came out? They'll absolutely look back on it with nostalgia and go back and buy up old games and hardware and such. It's happened with every generation so far, I see no reason why it doesn't continue, even if we find it hard to believe. People are nostalgic for iPods ffs, when we all have phones that can do what iPods did 1000% better. Why not the PS4 or Xbone?
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