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Post by Sarge on Aug 14, 2023 21:50:32 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone's tolerance for jank differs for sure. I mean, I would probably describe Tomb Raider as janky, too, but that game has a weirdly precise form of it, and doesn't lean too hard into its weakest aspect, the combat, so it's a good experience overall. Basically, the game is mostly designed well around the jank.
I know you don't love Castlevania on NES, but I feel those games are also designed around the limited moveset. I wouldn't classify that one as janky, though, just intentionally slow and methodical.
Speaking to Deadly Premonition, I wonder if it would crash less if running through Proton on the Deck? I'm pretty curious now.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 14, 2023 22:15:30 GMT -5
I played DP on normal difficulty on Xbox 360. A few people I've talked to that "love" the game played through it on easy. I can tell you fighting those stupid ceiling crawling zombies got to be tough after a while (on normal) along with just being highly repetitive. The driving was just boring and also became highly repetitive... IIRC there wasn't a fast travel option. Maybe the later versions better balance the gameplay or streamline stuff, I don't know. I enjoyed doing investigation stuff and just talking with the NPCs, that part of the game design was fun. But the combat and driving just suck and you do a LOT of that. Also toei know going in this is a ~20 hour long game. It has fast travel, it's just semi hidden behind some weird quest. Pretty sure I looked that up because ANYTHING to make the game more fun was ideal. lol
Maybe I played on Easy because I knew how crappy the combat was going in and wasn't playing it for that. I'm too lazy to load up my file and check, I did just look at my PS3 trophies but I don't see any difficulty exclusives ones or whatever.
toei: Maybe play it on Easy and look up how to unlock fast travel ASAP when you get to it. lol
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Post by Ex on Aug 14, 2023 22:24:57 GMT -5
Having to find some obscure item to unlock fast travel is so Deadly Premonition. Good example of its questionable game design. I don't want to come off like I hate the game, because I don't. I really did enjoy its characters, wack plot, amazingly obtuse dialogues, and the world's atmosphere. It's not a terrible game, Zach.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 14, 2023 22:50:33 GMT -5
Yeah. I rarely do this myself or suggest it to others, but this is definitely a game I'd say do a lot of research on prior and consider looking things up to unlock this or that, etc.
Ex : Now you gotta play Drakengard 3.
2010 Deadly Premonition 2014 Drakengard 3
Similarly, a game mildly saved by Yoko Taro and some decent writing, but man oh man, I wouldn't book Access Games to make any of my games if I were some publisher.
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Post by Ex on Aug 14, 2023 23:24:45 GMT -5
I own a copy of DG3... I'm well aware of the BS final boss. Possibly the worst final boss of any game ever?
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Post by Sarge on Aug 15, 2023 18:02:11 GMT -5
I never did get Drakengard 3, but yep, I'm super aware of the final boss. Evil, evil stuff, that.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 15, 2023 18:27:26 GMT -5
The video of that "boss fight" is not edited at all and what you see is what you get.
An 8+ minute rhythm game where you can't miss a SINGLE note. A framerate that dips... As the camera goes out of the players view and into completely asinine angles making it impossible to see where the notes should hit. With notes off screen, including the one when the screen goes completely, 100%, black at the very end.
Yoko Taro is great and a madman, but I'm glad some others must have reeled him in to some degree on the Nier games. They don't have anything half as insane as this.
When I stubbornly tried to beat the boss for a week or two, I would mute my game while watching YT guides out there. But it was always hard to perfectly sync it up. I could get pretty far into the fight but after a few attempts, time would melt away. It's ridiculous that I was going to play the post game content IF I could. Even thought about taking over my system to a friends who was amazing at Guitar Hero, DDR, etc all that stuff. But yeah I just gave up and that's a wrap. Rhythm games were always my kryptonite so I took it personally but I'm not going to go too crazy trying to finish that like I would any other normal videogame final boss.
At least it's a cool song and the OST is pretty good. It might be entirely why I played it...
I watched YT runs of Drakengard 1. It looks awful to play but it's true, it's probably one of the darkest storylines I've ever seen in gaming. Maybe Yoko Taro is like Tomino, the old creator of Gundam, who would have shows known for his "Kill Em' All" nickname where characters die left and right, or go to something completely goofy another show. Taro must have utterly hated humanity in the PS2 era and wanted to make everyone who played Drakengard sure of it. lol
Never watched Drakengard 2, since he wasn't involved on that one. Decent OST too though.
Drakengard 1 is just nihilistic evil.
Nier is beautifully depressing as hell. Nier Automata is good sci-fi existential dread.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 15, 2023 18:32:53 GMT -5
Honestly, that's the sort of game at this point that I'd try to run in RPCS3 and save state the heck out of it.
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Post by Xeogred on Aug 15, 2023 18:47:49 GMT -5
That's a good idea haha. I don't think I'd recommend it to anyone though to be honest. The writing and characters were fine but nothing extraordinary like Deadly Premonition or some of Yoko Taro's other stuff... namely the Nier games. Those are must plays.
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Post by anayo on Sept 9, 2023 11:49:10 GMT -5
Doesn't the PS3 have some exclusive lightgun games?
I recently went to a nearby barcade with some friends where we tried to play Time Crisis 4. It was a blast, but the guns were poorly calibrated, making our shots go all over the place. I could have sworn I had several Time Crisis games for the PS3. If I were to try to play those, I could surely get an accurate shot with them.
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