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Post by bonesnapdeez on Feb 13, 2024 6:57:37 GMT -5
There are some eroge metroidvanias on Steam that look pretty good ngl.
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Post by Ex on Feb 13, 2024 11:13:24 GMT -5
Need some credentials on that claim! I know Sarge is #1, I think the "metroidvania" genre supplanted his prior favorite genre (JRPG) some time ago. Well I doubt I can remember every "metroidvania" I've ever beaten, but here's what I can recall (sticking with 2D "metroidvania" here): Aliens: Infestation Bionic Commando Blaster Master Zero Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow Castlevania: Circle of the Moon Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Castlevania: Order of Shadows Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
Demon's Crest Gargoyle's Quest Gargoyle's Quest II
Guacamelee! Malaya's TreasureMega Man ZX Mega Man ZX Advent
Metroid Metroid II: Return of SamusMetroid Fusion Metroid: Samus Returns Metroid: Zero Mission Monster Tale Montezuma's Revenge Record of Lodoss War - Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth Rygar Shin Megami Tensei: Synchronicity Prologue (you might appreciate this one now) Super Metroid Tails Adventure The Mummy Demastered The Scheme ZillionI think I'd like to hit up Blasphemous 2 next Do you or Sarge have any interest in The Last Faith? There are some eroge metroidvanias on Steam that look pretty good Please list for science.
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Post by bonesnapdeez on Feb 13, 2024 12:30:10 GMT -5
lol check out publisher CriticalBliss.
Metroidvanias are cool. I play them occasionally. Totally missed out on those GBA and DS Castlevania games tho.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 13, 2024 12:43:40 GMT -5
Yeah, at some point I'll give The Last Faith a look. I think I was slightly bothered that it's doing it's own take on Blasphemous, but not quite as polished, but I've also seen some extremely positive reviews for it.
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Post by Ex on Feb 13, 2024 13:57:03 GMT -5
bonesnapdeez - I will check out that developer's output. Totally missed out on those GBA and DS Castlevania games Of those six, I consider these two the best: Those two are also the most difficult, so are often put at the bottom of most people's list. Most people actually put these two at the top: This one is the easiest (and I mean a total cakewalk): And the "worst" IMO: All are worth playing, though, certainly worth emulating even today. Of course playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Super Metroid are the initial prime requisites to enter the metroidvania realm. Yeah, at some point I'll give The Last Faith a look. Probably not as good as Blasphemous proper, but a decent diversion while awaiting the third entry.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 13, 2024 14:15:04 GMT -5
Also, not sure it's necessarily replaced JRPGs, but I don't think JRPGs are on top anymore, either. Just an aging/patience thing, I think. Although I'm seriously considering playing through Dragon Quest XI - I even popped it into the PS4 the other night.
And yeah, even the "worst" Igavania is still great.
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Post by toei on Feb 13, 2024 14:39:43 GMT -5
I can never remember which two CVs I finished, so I looked up my lists and it was Circle of the Moon and Aria of Sorrow. They were both pretty good, but I can't imagine playing dozens of games like that. The whole formula seems too limited. Or I'd rather play a side-scroller in concentrated form, without the backtracking. Just pure action. I'm sure I'll play another one day, maybe Symphony of the Night.
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Post by Ex on Feb 13, 2024 14:48:05 GMT -5
The whole formula seems too limited. One of the reasons I like OoE so much, is it adds ancillary systems and gameplay depth, like the Glyph system (which Bloodstained aped), town with NPCs that provide quests, open areas to traverse outside the main castle, two-handed weapon style, and other stuff I've forgotten by now.
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Post by Sarge on Feb 13, 2024 14:54:55 GMT -5
While I appreciate linear, straightforward action games (and I definitely understand why others do, too), you also get no sense of exploration with them. I find it cool to poke around and find stuff off the beaten path, or come back all powered up to find more stuff. In a lot of ways, it's a more simplified take on RPGs, just that your intrinsic moveset is what improves along the way. Although obviously many of them also have leveling systems, too.
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Post by toei on Feb 13, 2024 14:55:31 GMT -5
Towns and open areas outside the castle both sound good. Maybe I'll skip whatever the third GBA CV is and go straight to it next time I want to play one of them. Sarge Some of them do have cool hidden stuff. Some level-based sidescrollers have stuff like that too though. You need some sort of permanent upgrades to make it worthwhile, though, otherwise the best thing you can find is a 1up or a an extra credit, which isn't as exciting. But I don't know, the whole "returning with new abilities to access places you couldn't" was more fun in the top-down ARPGs they got it from for me. I literally dropped The Messenger when it got to the point of having to go back to old levels to look for some new place to access to advance the game. It was just a hassle to me, I couldn't be bothered. But the two GBA CVs I played were better designed in that regard, I never really had to wonder where to go.
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